BensGrandad
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Not correct if the ball is passed backwards it is not offside but there is no mention of where the ball should be other than that in the rules. Offside is decided on where players are not the ball.
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[Football] Right then. After that demonstration... VAR? Yes or No?
- Thread starter SweatyMexican
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Not correct if the ball is passed backwards it is not offside but there is no mention of where the ball should be other than that in the rules. Offside is decided on where players are not the ball.
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside
A player is in an offside position if:
- any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half (excluding the halfway line) and
- any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent
- The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered.
The highlighted bit is saying that if you are 'behind the ball' you are not offside.
darkwolf666
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I really do wish you would stop shooting yourself in the foot, you make it far too easy for others to prove you wrong!
Stick to opinions and not "facts", you can't get opinions wrong!
BensGrandad
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Unlikely, I'll give you. But nowhere near as unlikely as you saying 'I got it wrong'
see post no 824
drew
Drew
This is truly unbelievable.
That or it is a complete windup. If you are behind the ball when it is kicked, you can't be offside, simple as. It is irrelevant whether the ball is passed forwards or backwards.
In yesterdays case, Maddison would have had to have been less than 12yrds from the goal line at the time Vardy kicked the ball!
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Its a shocker isn't it. Both Sterlings feet are behind the last TWO defenders, and again, I'm not convinced they've frozen that at the frame when the ball went forward.
VAR is an absolute shit sandwich. I'm afraid I said it from the start, and I was far from the only one.
You will get the crew saying offside is offside
But these are not 100 percent offside.
Yesterday,Son,Firmino, the Sheff United one against Spurs,Mount all ridiculous decisions.
Bin it till it’s right, id hoped that’s what the league was going to say last week.
BensGrandad
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The ball AND the 2nd last defender so in my instance only one would be such not both or AND. Anyway I will stick to my view others may stick to theirs and until it happens nobody will know the true answer and who is correct with their view.
SIMMO SAYS
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darkwolf666
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Stop shouting
That's what people do when they are wrong, as others then think they must be right as they are so vocal...
How has that been given?!?
It’s hand ball!!
It’s hand ball!!
No, it clearly isn't.
Hits his arm.
BensGrandad
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Should Sheff Utd 3rd goal have been disallowed for handball?
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
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you haven't told us yet
drew
Drew
So, in your, scenario, Maddison is on the 18yrd line and our players are a foot further back. You are saying that is offside. Well ask yourself if he is ahead of the ball? He isn't because that happens to be sitting on the penalty spot, a good 6 yrds ahead of him, ergo, he is not in an offside position.
You talk yourself into ridiculous situations and then when it is pointed out to you time and time again you don't back down.
I expect VAR to remain ("everytime a technologically stronger civilisation meets a weaker, the weaker cease to exist"), but to change a lot.
1. VAR will be sponsored by someone. "VAR - Sponsored by Coca Cola".
2. Refs will be forced to watch the screen on the sidelines to give especially American TV companies an extra commercial break or two.
3. Rules of football will change, adapting to VAR, to make sure there are more goals. Maybe removing aspects of the offside goal and become harsher on "small" offenses in the penalty box. Say an average of five penalties per game - excellent for i.e. American or Chinese audiences who dont really give a shit about football or the teams but likes a great show (great show = many goals).
... but hopefully not. I hope the PL supporters and teams go together and say "feck this shiet". We the people managed to kill off Golden goal and "Silver goal" rules so maybe its not entirely impossible. Next year all the Swedish clubs will discuss implementing it in the Swedish league from 2021 and same goes for a lot of other smaller European leagues. I would be so happy if PL just said "naw feck off UEFA, we dont want this".
Its the worst shit to happen to football in a very long while.
1. VAR will be sponsored by someone. "VAR - Sponsored by Coca Cola".
2. Refs will be forced to watch the screen on the sidelines to give especially American TV companies an extra commercial break or two.
3. Rules of football will change, adapting to VAR, to make sure there are more goals. Maybe removing aspects of the offside goal and become harsher on "small" offenses in the penalty box. Say an average of five penalties per game - excellent for i.e. American or Chinese audiences who dont really give a shit about football or the teams but likes a great show (great show = many goals).
... but hopefully not. I hope the PL supporters and teams go together and say "feck this shiet". We the people managed to kill off Golden goal and "Silver goal" rules so maybe its not entirely impossible. Next year all the Swedish clubs will discuss implementing it in the Swedish league from 2021 and same goes for a lot of other smaller European leagues. I would be so happy if PL just said "naw feck off UEFA, we dont want this".
Its the worst shit to happen to football in a very long while.
For goodness sake.
You've just basically explained that he would be onside! 'one not both'.
In your scenario the striker would be nearer to the goal line than the second last opponent, but not nearer to the goal line than the ball. He would have to be nearer the goal line than both to be offside. That's what 'and' means!
You say 'until it happens nobody will know the true answer' - it happens every week. Almost every week somewhere a player runs through with the ball and passes the ball forward to a team-mate who is behind him & the ball but with no defender in front of him.
BensGrandad
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l give up on my theory as it is a hypothetical situation that is unlikely to ever happen as the players all stand in line on the edge of the box.
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
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does that mean that you have admitted that you're wrong?