The Birdman
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It needs a good understanding between the Director of football and the manager / head coach with the latter making the final decision with the Chairman. Then it could work
So when a manager moves club, they should dump all their players and buy a new squad. Righto Harry.Redknapp, who has complete control of purchases at QPR, cannot see the sense in managers being forced to work with players that they have not chosen themselves.
So when a manager moves club, they should dump all their players and buy a new squad. Righto Harry.
What he means is he wants his chairman to give him whatever he wants. But what he said was that it doesn't make sense for managers to have to work with players they didn't choose. But of course they bloody have to, unless they're at the club for a long time. Imagine Chelsea's managers not working with the players that are at the club - the managers change every year, it wouldn't make sense to also change every player every year.Surely that is not what Butterball means is it?
What he means is he wants his chairman to give him whatever he wants. But what he said was that it doesn't make sense for managers to have to work with players they didn't choose. But of course they bloody have to, unless they're at the club for a long time. Imagine Chelsea's managers not working with the players that are at the club - the managers change every year, it wouldn't make sense to also change every player every year.
I see no reason why a director of football shouldn't work. There's loads more to the identifying and recruiting players, stuff that the manager doesn't have time for and shouldn't be involved with.
As long as he has the final say in whether a player is signed or not.
Like at the Albion.
No, I wasn't commenting on that, I was simply disagreeing with a point 'arry made.I accept that, but you have not commented on the role of the DOF in a clubs failure and his responsibility for identifying a poor squad
So why waste money on a middle man? Manager briefs his chief scout, chief scout gets on with it and reports back. Job done. Sticking a D of F in the structure ABOVE the manger is rubbish - as we are proving now.Depends what system you employ. It should work when the manager tells the Director of Football the type of player he wants. The DoF then communicates this to the scouts who find those that fit the bill and a list is drawn up based on what the club can afford. This is then presented to the manager who grades them in order of his preferred choices. The DoF then negotiates to bring in the managers preferred options.
So why waste money on a middle man? Manager briefs his chief scout, chief scout gets on with it and reports back. Job done. Sticking a D of F in the structure ABOVE the manger is rubbish - as we are proving now.
So what are Swansea, Southampton, Chelsea, West Brom, Stoke all proving who also have similar systems?
The problem chairman have is manager briefs scouts, manager signs players he wants, manager has success, manager leaves. Next manager needs to start again. That is happening with us anyway, but with clubs like Southampton, they are changing managers, directors etc, but they are establishing continuity right through the club and sustaining success.
......they are establishing continuity right through the club and sustaining success. We're not.So what are Swansea, Southampton, Chelsea, West Brom, Stoke all proving who also have similar systems?
The problem chairman have is manager briefs scouts, manager signs players he wants, manager has success, manager leaves. Next manager needs to start again. That is happening with us anyway, but with clubs like Southampton, they are changing managers, directors etc, but they are establishing continuity right through the club and sustaining success.
So what are Swansea, Southampton, Chelsea, West Brom, Stoke all proving who also have similar systems?
The problem chairman have is manager briefs scouts, manager signs players he wants, manager has success, manager leaves. Next manager needs to start again. That is happening with us anyway, but with clubs like Southampton, they are changing managers, directors etc, but they are establishing continuity right through the club and sustaining success.
Stopping Harry bankrupting a club is more the Chairman/Owner responsibility than a DOF don't you think?
......they are establishing continuity right through the club and sustaining success. We're not.
Can I just ask. If a club is struggling and the squad looks poor to previous seasons, how much of the responsibility is attributed between the manager and the DOF. Is it 50-50 or what, if the team is failing why is the head of the manager only ever called for?
Like any other flawed system (3-5-2 for example) it will work for a while occasionally.So it's not a flawed system then but some other underlying issue like personnel, budget constraints etc
I'd have thought old 'Arry would have loved to work under a director of football.
That way, when it all goes tits up, you've got a whole new man to lay the blame on. Obviously you still claim the credit for yourself when you win.
Apart from the fact that we are having our best spell of sucsess since the 80s with the system. How the hell is that a failing system?