[Albion] Ranking our major signings

[Dunk&Disorderly]

According to Sky Sports, Neville and Carragher recently rated United's major signings in terms of value for money, dating back to summer 2013, which was interesting and amusing in itself:



It got me wondering where our major signings would fall, particularly during our Premier League era and I came up with the below that I think are a dead cert:

Green:
Groß (£3m)
Biss (£15m)
Cucu (£16m)

Red:
Jahanbakhsh (£17m)
Locadia (£16m)
Bernardo (£9m)

Who else should be considered value for money? Who is a failed signing? Who is amber? Possibly the likes of Andone, Schelotto, Izquierdo?

In general we get loads more right than we get wrong, which reflects how well we recruit compared to the likes of United.

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

Andone is surely a fail, we've been trying to get him off the wage bill for 3 seasons!

Lamptey green

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[The Optimist]

Maty Ryan - green. Although it ended a bit oddly he was very important in keeping us in the league in the first two seasons.

In fact anyone who played regularly over those two seasons should be green, e.g. Davy Propper.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I can't think of another red apart from the ones you mention.

Andone's goal against Palace and some crucial goals in a struggling team which kept us up in our second year, pushes him into amber

 

[Dunk&Disorderly]

Andone is surely a fail, we've been trying to get him off the wage bill for 3 seasons!

Lamptey green

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Agreed about Lamptey, I just think Andone played an important part when he was firing on all cylinders, i.e. Palace/Huddersfield goals and only cost £5m. Shame to put him in the failed column but might have to agree there too.

 

[stewart12]

According to Sky Sports, Neville and Carragher recently rated United's major signings in terms of value for money, dating back to summer 2013, which was interesting and amusing in itself:

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It got me wondering where our major signings would fall, particularly during our Premier League era and I came up with the below that I think are a dead cert:

Green:
Groß (£3m)
Biss (£15m)
Cucu (£16m)

Red:
Jahanbakhsh (£17m)
Locadia (£16m)
Bernardo (£9m)

Who else should be considered value for money? Who is a failed signing? Who is amber? Possibly the likes of Andone, Schelotto, Izquierdo?

In general we get loads more right than we get wrong, which reflects how well we recruit compared to the likes of United.

harsh on Bernardo? £9m isn't that much and in the second half of that Hughton season was one of the very few players to come out with any credit

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Maty Ryan - green. Although it ended a bit oddly he was very important in keeping us in the league in the first two seasons.

In fact anyone who played regularly over those two seasons should be green, e.g. Davy Propper.

Hmmm - Would have said Ryan was more amber, not sure he was a resounding success and let in quite a few saveable shots IMO. Propper is an interesting one, some great games mixed with some anonymous ones, probably just about green. Montoya amber, Schelotto red (other than the Zaha moment, awful defensively), Andone red,

Izquierdo? Such a shame injuries got the better of him, but that first season he was great at times.

Interesting and good thread.

 

[Fran Sandaza 8 my hamster]

Gold category - Caicedo, MacAllister, Gross, Cucerella, Bissouma, Webster

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[The_Viper]

Veltman is easily a green, only Gross a better value for money signing.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Gold category - Caicedo, MacAllister, Gross, Cucerella, Bissouma, Webster

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I’d throw in Trossard and Veltman as well.

 

[brightn'ove]

by the mere fact that we are still in the premier league I think they are all amber and above with the exception of Locadia who was absolutely dreadful.

 

[WhingForPresident]

I'd put these all down as green:

Trossard
Cucurella
Groß
Bissouma
Webster
Lamptey
Burn
Veltman
Caicedo
Mac Allister
Welbeck

 

[Swansman]

Maguire as amber while Lindelöf, Mata and Fellaini - all half as expensive and at least equally good - is pretty funny.

Anyway, Brighton in the GP era:

Green:
Mwepu
Cucurella
Caicedo
Lallana
Veltman
Moder
Trossard
Maupay
Webster
Lamptey

Amber:
Andi Zeqiri (likely to be sold with a profit which always makes it ok)
Reda Khadra (same as above)
Aaron Mooy

Red:
Michal Karbownik
Matt Clarke

TBC:
Sarmiento
Kozlowski
Scherpen
Sima
Undav
Mitoma
Van Hecke

Doubt any club is anywhere near that success rate tbh

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Hmmm - Would have said Ryan was more amber, not sure he was a resounding success and let in quite a few saveable shots IMO. Propper is an interesting one, some great games mixed with some anonymous ones, probably just about green. Montoya amber, Schelotto red (other than the Zaha moment, awful defensively), Andone red,

Izquierdo? Such a shame injuries got the better of him, but that first season he was great at times.

Interesting and good thread.

Maty was terrific for a couple of seasons, then went off the boil. He didn't cost loads. Green for me

 

[Dunk&Disorderly]

Gold category - Caicedo, MacAllister, Gross, Cucerella, Bissouma, Webster

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The fact we can happily have a gold category and United barely have a green category makes me more happy than it should do.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Maty was terrific for a couple of seasons, then went off the boil. He didn't cost loads. Green for me

Quite a few went in because of a weak hand, plus some howlers initially (but those happen to everyone)..

He did make some important saves as well, but I just didn’t think he was good enough, and arguably not much of an upgrade on Stockdale.

All opinions

 

[Napper]

Proper possibly sneaks an amber as played a lot if that counts towards this

 

[stewart12]

Gold
Gross
Bissouma
Trossard
Webster
Lamptey
Veltman
Caicedo
Cucurella

Green
Propper
Burn
Mac Allister
Lallana
Moder
Welbeck
Sarmiento
Mwepu
Mitoma

Amber
Ryan
Normann
Alzate
Mateju
Izquierdo
Krul
Andone
Balogun
Steele
Bernardo
Button
Montoya
Maupay
Mooy
Zeqiri
Khadra
Van Hecke
Karbownik
Suttner
Schelotto

Red
Locadia- shit and a dickhead
Tau- too much build up and didn't look up to it at all when he got the chance
Jahanbaksh- seemed like a nice guy but not up to it

 

[Baldseagull]

We have only had genuinely bad signing since coming up, Locadia.
Andone and Jahanbakhsh are not without quality, but they go in the red list financially, but that doesn't seem fair on Jahanbakhsh. Hoping Jakub Moder gets over his operation and doesn't join Izquierdo as a talent destroyed by injury.
We have done less well in development since coming up with only Sanchez really making it so far, though we have sold a fair few for good fees, and maybe Connolly gets his head straight in Venice?

 

[Baldseagull]

Gold
Gross
Bissouma
Trossard
Webster
Lamptey
Veltman
Caicedo
Cucurella

Green
Propper
Burn
Mac Allister
Lallana
Moder
Welbeck
Sarmiento
Mwepu
Mitoma

Amber
Ryan
Normann
Alzate
Mateju
Izquierdo
Krul
Andone
Balogun
Steele
Bernardo
Button
Montoya
Maupay
Mooy
Zeqiri
Khadra
Van Hecke
Karbownik
Suttner
Schelotto

Red
Locadia- shit and a dickhead
Tau- too much build up and didn't look up to it at all when he got the chance
Jahanbaksh- seemed like a nice guy but not up to it

We had moved on a bit by the time we actually got Tau able to play for us.