With Slade once again publicly criticising a specific player (Murray in Todays Argus) I just wondered what everyone feels about this method of man management? I understand that Elphick was very upset by comments made by the manager after his performance against Southend. Can't imagine Murray being to happy either. So good idea to go public or should this be kept in the dressing room?
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Publicly condemning players.
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Depends on the player.
Some players respond better to public humiliation than they do to private cajoling. Some prefer it the other way around. I don't think any player likes criticism, so it's no surprise Elphick wasn't happy, but he responded with a great performance, didn't he?
Will the threat of public humiliation also help provide incentive for other players to avoid silly red cards?
Some players respond better to public humiliation than they do to private cajoling. Some prefer it the other way around. I don't think any player likes criticism, so it's no surprise Elphick wasn't happy, but he responded with a great performance, didn't he?
Will the threat of public humiliation also help provide incentive for other players to avoid silly red cards?
I felt that both comments were entirely justified. After all, everyone at Withdean could see for themselves that Elphick was at fault for the Southend goal and those that watched the FL show on Sat night would have seen that stupid (and blatant) handball by Murray. Also, if TE was unhappy then he hasn't done too much since to prove to Slade that his comments were wrong.
Slade's job is right on the line at the moment and his chances aren't being helped by these guys. I'm surprised he hasn't issued a 'shape up or ship out' message to them.
Slade's job is right on the line at the moment and his chances aren't being helped by these guys. I'm surprised he hasn't issued a 'shape up or ship out' message to them.
Brighton Breezy
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Well, I am guessing if the said player is our most talented striker who is not exactly settled at the club, it might be sligtly counter-productive.
Keep things in house.
Also, did Virgo get a witch hunt after his STUPID two first half yellows at Bristol?
Keep things in house.
Also, did Virgo get a witch hunt after his STUPID two first half yellows at Bristol?
theonesmith
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There is a difference between Virgo's two poor tackles and Murray's absolutely ridiculous handball.
He may be talented but I wouldn't care if he never plays for us again.
theonesmith
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Also, wasn't it taken out of context? I believe the main element of today's story came from the question on Saturday of "What did you think of Murray's red card"? To which he replied, "He's let the team down". Would you disagree with that?
Brighton Breezy
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I would say the main difference was that as CAPTAIN Virgo should be leading by example...
Twinkle Toes
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It looks like the Arsegust's latest qoutes (by RS) were lifted from the post-match interview he did on Radio Sussex, so it's good to see that Naylor & Co are still working tirelessly to bring us the exclusive scoops. 
Regarding the public condemnation of players, I would say that it depends on the actions of the player in question. I personally love it when a manager speaks from the heart, but whether it's actually a productive way of motivating a player or team is open to conjecture.
Regarding the public condemnation of players, I would say that it depends on the actions of the player in question. I personally love it when a manager speaks from the heart, but whether it's actually a productive way of motivating a player or team is open to conjecture.
Mendoza
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I like it, it shows we are admitting there are problems. Under Adams it was never our own fault, someone lese was always to blame.
And it beats Publicly CUDDLING players anyday
And it beats Publicly CUDDLING players anyday
Brighton Breezy
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Yeah it is always great to make one player into a scapegoat when morale is low anyway...
Must make them really want to knuckle down and run through walls for their manager.
The best managers DON'T do this. They do it in house.
There was a season, possibly two or three years back, when it seemed like whenever Man Utd lost and it wasn't the ref's fault, it was "one or two individual errors, "if Ferdinand hadn't tried to be cute..." etc.
So yes. Top managers do do it.
Elphick followed up his public flogging earlier this season with a good performance.
Matt Richards, our left back against walsall last year got slaughtered, but he came back with a barn storming game against man city a few days later. So yes, public embarrassment does help, sometimes.
A good man manager knows who it works for and who it doesn't.
Ecosse Exile
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He should have taken a leaf out of Vengers book and said i need to see it on the dvd. I dont agree with publicly critisising any of the players as i only think it can be counterproductive.
I heard Paul Samrah saying on the radio one time that he had seen Slade losing his temper and it was akin to a boxer, if thats true then he should give them whatsfor in the privacy of the changing room, remind them of it during training and if they are not showing any signs of improvement in the next game(s) then let them play in the stiffs until they are showing those signs.
I heard Paul Samrah saying on the radio one time that he had seen Slade losing his temper and it was akin to a boxer, if thats true then he should give them whatsfor in the privacy of the changing room, remind them of it during training and if they are not showing any signs of improvement in the next game(s) then let them play in the stiffs until they are showing those signs.
Brighton Breezy
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But only after being left playing a half in the stiffs and being dropped for Colin Hawkins - who then was injured and couldn't play, resulting in Elphick being put back in at the last minute...
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Personally I could never take a bollocking seriously from someone wearing a blue cap.
He'd be better off in a sharp suit with a black rollneck jumper, dark glasses and a scar, and using a baseball bat or a meat cleaver to point to things on the blackboard.
Would scare me.
He'd be better off in a sharp suit with a black rollneck jumper, dark glasses and a scar, and using a baseball bat or a meat cleaver to point to things on the blackboard.
Would scare me.
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Doubt we have got anywhere near the full story of what happened in the dressing room after. Murray will know he was an idiot and I'm sure will take it. As for Elphick it did him no harm he was at fault and came back with a much better performance the game after
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What, really?
That's scary. Even THINKING about playing Hawkins is bordering on gross misconduct, I mean once was a mistake, it shouldn't have been done but anyone can make a mistake once. To repeat it would've been scandalous.
Scotty Mac
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didn't mcghee get absolutely SLATED for not keeping things in house?
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Can't remember. Give us a for instance...?
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inert or inept? McCammon hitching a lift?