Prisons

[The Clamp]

A hot topic at the moment. What is going on? They have always been places where people misbehave but it seems to be off the scale at present. Are we too lenient or is there nothing to be done about drugs, phones, violence etc?

Yes, lady in the back with the large spectacles and green scarf.

 

[happypig]

is there nothing to be done about drugs, phones,

Not until we're honest about how they get in there.

 

[The Clamp]

Not until we're honest about how they get in there.

Drones I hear now. Drones! How are they not spotted?!

 

[Ernest]

If you cut back the number of Prison Guards this is what happens, another FAILED Tory policy

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Reduction in funding + Reduction in staff + Overcrowding = more problems?

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

Tory Government, also see the NHS.

 

[happypig]

Drones I hear now. Drones! How are they not spotted?!

I was thinking more along the lines of corrupt prison officers

 

[mr sheen]

bound to happen, they get paid very poorly.

 

[Diablo]

If you cut back the number of Prison Guards this is what happens, another FAILED Tory policy

You`re no doubt not in favour of GOO (governor only operated) prisons.

 

[The Clamp]

I was thinking more along the lines of corrupt prison officers

Oh yes, of course. I should imagine that's the main supply route.

 

[BLOCK F]

Too many people being sent to prison.
Many of those with drug problems shouldn't be in prison, but should be given proper help to kick the habit. Trouble is, there aren't enough rehab resources.
Not enough prison officers and quite frankly, many of the existing prisons should be knocked down and new facilities built fit for the 21st century.
Too much emphasis on just locking individuals up and too little emphasis on rehabilitation.
Too much notice has been taken by successive Governments in 'acting tough' on crime to appease the flog 'em, hang 'em and f--k 'em ' brigade, with little or no constructive thought given to what is the right way forward for both, prisoners and society as a whole.
I have to agree with what Michael Gove says:'many aspects of the justice system are themselves practically criminal'.

 

[Napper]

As mentioned , Conservative government.

Running things down and cost cutting.

How they got in is a mystery

 

[crabface]

After watching the program on Channel 4 last week, you would have to be a nutter to accept a job as a prison officer.

 

[BeHereNow]

They are full of foreigners.

 

[Notters]

Tory Government, also see the NHS.

Beat me to it, see also care for the elderly, trains, roads, rubbish collection, police...

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

They are full of foreigners.

You are wrong.

We have the highest prison population of Western Europe with the fewest number of foreign nationals, around 10,000 (of around 95,000 total) compared to 14,000 foreign nationals in France and 19,000 foreign nationals in Germany, 17,000 in Italy, 20,000 in Spain.

 

[spring hall convert]

Holland has a very different problem. Compare and contrast

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...als-to-fill-its-prisons-as-crime-to-drop.html

 

[Gregory2Smith1]

You are wrong.

We have the highest prison population of Western Europe with the fewest number of foreign nationals, around 10,000 (of around 95,000 total) compared to 14,000 foreign nationals in France and 19,000 foreign nationals in Germany, 17,000 in Italy, 20,000 in Spain.

hasn't got anything to do with other countries though has it

 

[spring hall convert]

hasn't got anything to do with other countries though has it

We should watch out. If we keep blaming foreigners for our own ills despite the existence of hard evidence to the contrary we might end up doing something rash.

Oh.

 

[Gregory2Smith1]

Holland has a very different problem. Compare and contrast

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...als-to-fill-its-prisons-as-crime-to-drop.html

is that a flat screen TV I can see on the wall