[Misc] Pride Street Party moved

[nickbrighton]

Pride Village Party to move to seafront

Pride Village Party is to move from St James's Street to Marine Parade this year because of safety concerns and

www.brightonandhovenews.org

This seems a strange decision, thousands will gather on St James's St anyway, but it will not policed . The gay bars on St James's street are all quite small and probably wouldn't be able to afford to run pop up bars on the sea front

Pride has become less and less to do with LGBTQ over the years, Preston Park is simply another music festival, the parade is basically corporate advertising, and by taking the party away from the "gay village" and dumping iot on the seafront, the whole thing just becomes a carnival completly devoid of the original purpose

The fact that the venues on St James's St were not invited or even told about the meeting just shows the disdain that the council has for the LGBTQ community. Pride is the major business period for the gay businesses and this will be a huge setback for them

 

[Withdean South Stand]

I am REALLY excited for this thread, it has enormous potential for absolute chaos.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Pride Village Party to move to seafront

Pride Village Party is to move from St James's Street to Marine Parade this year because of safety concerns and

www.brightonandhovenews.org

This seems a strange decision, thousands will gather on St James's St anyway, but it will not policed . The gay bars on St James's street are all quite small and probably wouldn't be able to afford to run pop up bars on the sea front

Pride has become less and less to do with LGBTQ over the years, Preston Park is simply another music festival, the parade is basically corporate advertising, and by taking the party away from the "gay village" and dumping iot on the seafront, the whole thing just becomes a carnival completly devoid of the original purpose

The fact that the venues on St James's St were not invited or even told about the meeting just shows the disdain that the council has for the LGBTQ community. Pride is the major business period for the gay businesses and this will be a huge setback for them

I like the reply to that article that suggests the city is "full of coked up straight people binge drinking" when the football is on (by which presumably they mean "the Albion").

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to powder my nose before smashing five pints of cider in The Terrace before kick off.

 

[dazzer6666]

I like the reply to that article that suggests the city is "full of coked up straight people binge drinking" when the football is on (by which presumably they mean "the Albion").

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to powder my nose before smashing five pints of cider in The Terrace before kick off.

You are Stuart Attwell and I claim my £5

 

[The Wookiee]

Pride Village Party to move to seafront

Pride Village Party is to move from St James's Street to Marine Parade this year because of safety concerns and

www.brightonandhovenews.org

This seems a strange decision, thousands will gather on St James's St anyway, but it will not policed . The gay bars on St James's street are all quite small and probably wouldn't be able to afford to run pop up bars on the sea front

Pride has become less and less to do with LGBTQ over the years, Preston Park is simply another music festival, the parade is basically corporate advertising, and by taking the party away from the "gay village" and dumping iot on the seafront, the whole thing just becomes a carnival completly devoid of the original purpose

The fact that the venues on St James's St were not invited or even told about the meeting just shows the disdain that the council has for the LGBTQ community. Pride is the major business period for the gay businesses and this will be a huge setback for them

You say that 1000’s will gather on St James street anyway but then you say it will be a huge setback to gay businesses ?

Unless the establishments are told to shut, I can’t see how it’s going to make a difference?

 

[Official Old Man]

I hate Pride, worst day of the entire summer season. It's not the LGBTQ+ people, they are all great, it's the rest of the 24 hour drinkers who come into town purely for the booze. We don't need them. Drunk by 11:00 am they stagger around town looking for a problem.
So if the 'non' LGBTQ+ idiots are kettled into Marine Parade and hosed down or just locked in, that would be wonderful and let the true Gay Pride people have their party in St James as normal.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I like the reply to that article that suggests the city is "full of coked up straight people binge drinking" when the football is on (by which presumably they mean "the Albion").

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to powder my nose before smashing five pints of cider in The Terrace before kick off.

Just the five, early shift tomorrow ?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Pride Village Party to move to seafront

Pride Village Party is to move from St James's Street to Marine Parade this year because of safety concerns and

www.brightonandhovenews.org

This seems a strange decision, thousands will gather on St James's St anyway, but it will not policed . The gay bars on St James's street are all quite small and probably wouldn't be able to afford to run pop up bars on the sea front

Pride has become less and less to do with LGBTQ over the years, Preston Park is simply another music festival, the parade is basically corporate advertising, and by taking the party away from the "gay village" and dumping iot on the seafront, the whole thing just becomes a carnival completly devoid of the original purpose

The fact that the venues on St James's St were not invited or even told about the meeting just shows the disdain that the council has for the LGBTQ community. Pride is the major business period for the gay businesses and this will be a huge setback for them

I used to live in George Street many many years ago and that area has always been a brilliant place to live. Let all the DFL's, teenage pissheads and various other coked up arseholes get down the seafront and allow St James's Street to be reclaimed by the locals and regulars on one of the biggest Saturday nights of the year.

I really can't see what the problem is

 

[nickbrighton]

You say that 1000’s will gather on St James street anyway but then you say it will be a huge setback to gay businesses ?

Unless the establishments are told to shut, I can’t see how it’s going to make a difference?

sorry, i didnt word it very well. Assuming the seafront is ticketed and charged for ,I think people will gravitate towards the "free" st james's st, where the police will try to move them on as they certainly wont allow a second "party" with street drinking and the street blocked. . The article indicates that the council dont want the party in the street and they will not allow a return to a full open access event so presumably people will not be allowed to take drinks outside the bars, most of which are quite small. That seems a recipe for chaos.

It comes as no surprise that the council have announced this a without consulting the businesses affected, and without having any detailed planning done, other than its moving. The council says they will be offered the chance to participate in the Marine Parade area – but it’s not yet been decided how. These things take months to organise so although it may seem a long way off, for planning purposes its not, especially if the council havent even decided how to involve the st james's st businesses

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Stuff starts out good. Then more people hear about it and come and get involved. Then corporations sense a money making chance. Then it turns shit.

 

[Barryseagulls]

It’s a shame Pride has become such a big tourist event. It seemed more friendly when it was mainly local people. Now we get all the leery London lot coming down !

 

[wellquickwoody]

I hope they do not have the same rules for Straight Pride.

 

[Eeyore]

I'm sure that back in 2016 I attended the event on the seafront which was closed off. Maybe in addition to Jimmy Street.

There are contrasting views of Pride. I remember speaking to the late James Ledward, editor of GScene, about it years ago. At one stage the event was political, a festival of self determination. Nowadays it feels like a massive festival of self indulgence. I was backstage in 2014 when a key speaker was talking to the crowd about the struggles of gay people in many countries abroad, the theme that year being united colours. It seemed to be that few gave a flying flamingo, they just wanted the music to start again. A significant number of those attending weren't gay anyway.

Back in 2011 Pride started charging for attendance. This was for two reasons. Firstly, the event was out of control. In 2007/8 I went down to Jimmy Street in the evening and the place was like a kettled bottle neck of thousands of people. I wondered how on earth emergency services could get in there. Something had to be done. Preston Park had up to 100,000 in attendance. Locals looking for trouble, much crime. Once it became smaller, more organised and structured that eased. Pride was losing money too, so it went commercial. The tickets for locals weren't so expensive and there were a lot of freebies handed out to various groups.

I attended every year for about 15 years from 1997. But now I can't wait for it to be over. It's lost its mojo. And whilst the town isn't in half the mess it once was, it is a major disruption at a peak time. Maybe I'm just getting old.

In answer to Nick, I'm pretty sure that the local pubs did have some kind of outside operation. They had to. There is only so much capacity they can handle and it quickly reaches saturation.

But overall, I wonder that whilst the fight against discrimination hasn't yet had its victory, perhaps Pride in the current form has served its time. Political I'd say more social marches, against discrimination etc is always a good thing. But I don't think the festivals achieve much except that they are just another event in the calendar. This is not to say they should be stopped, but do need to be well managed.

One of my biggest bug bears was always local businesses that suddenly flew the flag at the time and no other. But no-one can really blame them as the Pink Pound is still strong in value.

 

[BBassic]

I used to live in George Street many many years ago and that area has always been a brilliant place to live. Let all the DFL's, teenage pissheads and various other coked up arseholes get down the seafront and allow St James's Street to be reclaimed by the locals and regulars on one of the biggest Saturday nights of the year.

I really can't see what the problem is

I lived in George St once, only for a year as a stop gap whilst saving for a deposit.

Had a great Saturday night on Pride weekend and was sleeping it all off until about 11am when the DJ that had setup outside my window decided to get going.

Brutal but ended up rallying and heading out for some more shenanigans.

 

[beorhthelm]

does seem rather shit, engineered to create a council controlled money spinner rather than the organic festivity intended.

 

[The Clamp]

Of course it will be policed. And many medical and law enforcement partner agencies will be operating with enhanced staff.


At Pride there is basically an all encompassing police presence covering the Old Steyne, St James, and the seafront.

And it won’t be barrier’d off and accessible only to ticket holders so may even do more business.

 

[AlbionBro]

I used to live in George Street many many years ago and that area has always been a brilliant place to live. Let all the DFL's, teenage pissheads and various other coked up arseholes get down the seafront and allow St James's Street to be reclaimed by the locals and regulars on one of the biggest Saturday nights of the year.

I really can't see what the problem is

I really need to wear my specs when reading these things, close to the mark before the watershed!