Poyet "right place right time"

[WATFORD zero]

Something does need freshening up because we've gone from being a hair's breadth of battering teams to deserving to lose the last 2 games (albeit without our best player yesterday)...but it'll turn around.

One of the most sensible posts i have seen on NSC in years - are you sure you're on the right forum ?

 

[trueblue]

One of the most sensible posts i have seen on NSC in years - are you sure you're on the right forum ?

Haha. I don't think I am any more to be honest

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Poyet completely transformed the playing side. Look at El Abd. Who honestly thought that we would see him regularly starting and playing well in a Championship side who have serious promotion aspirations? The general consensus was that he was a league 1 or 2 clogger at best. How many other managers could have done that?

We're going through another rough patch at the moment and the negativity is as bad as ever. It will turn around and we'll be good again, and then guess what, we'll go through another rough patch and all the negativity will be back again. But we'll still finish no lower than we did last year, I don't understand why people can't see it. Are all the moaners this negative about everything in their lives? It must be a pretty miserable existence.

Moan, moan, moan thats all I ever do and I have a pretty miserable existence.
You see, I have hopes and expectations and ambitions for my football club. I don't like standing still and I want to see progression and improvement. I want to aspire to higher things. I don't want to settle for always having rough patches. I prefer to be honest about my manager and my team and if they are not improving and not reaching the standard I expect, then I am going to have a moan. After all, I pay a lot money to follow my team, home and away and want some value for money. I invest in my team emotionally and it lifts me when we do well .
This a forum for expressing different views and paying fans, fans who attend games, who buy merchandise, programmes, food and drink and are continually contributing to the clubs coffers, have a right to be as negative as they like.
We are not all " ra ra everything in the garden is rosy and you negative idiots don't know how well your bread is buttered " types. We

 

[trueblue]

Moan, moan, moan thats all I ever do and I have a pretty miserable existence.
You see, I have hopes and expectations and ambitions for my football club. I don't like standing still and I want to see progression and improvement. I want to aspire to higher things. I don't want to settle for always having rough patches. I prefer to be honest about my manager and my team and if they are not improving and not reaching the standard I expect, then I am going to have a moan. After all, I pay a lot money to follow my team, home and away and want some value for money. I invest in my team emotionally and it lifts me when we do well

Ever heard the expressions "patience is a virtue" and "Rome wasn't built in a day"?

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Ever heard the expressions "patience is a virtue" and "Rome wasn't built in a day"?

Some people think because they pay money - they expect the best, happens in many cases. Instant success won't happen - simple.

 

[Don Quixote]

Poyet was incredible back then, he really was, but even back then he took some time to get it right and he eventually did. I think he is still on a learning curve and he will get it right this year, it is just taking some time.

 

[peterward]

If any manager could have done it, why didn't slade?

No, it wasn't something that was nothing to do with poyet. He had the necessary skills to do what he did. Are there otherswho also had those skills? Almost certainly. Does that detract from Poyet's achievements? Absolutely not.

It doesnt detract, but Poyet was fortunate that he inherited a lot of good players, in crofts back then, bennett and most imortantly Murray.

If Poyet was to be fired...which i doubt, the single biggest turning point in his tenure will be allowing an on fire Murray who had scored for fun in League 1 to walk out the door, then try umpteen ways to replace his threat and fail every time.

I don't want to hark on about Murray its been done to death and its history, but if Poyet reflects to himself honestly he had the one thing he so desperately needed these last 2 seasons in his hands and for whatever reasons of ego or believing he new better that single decision and our consequent lack of goal scoring threat writes the story of where we are today.

 

[trueblue]

....that single decision and our consequent lack of goal scoring threat writes the story of where we are today.

Which is 10th in the Championship and in touch with the play-off pack. So I doubt he'll lose too much sleep over it.

 

[otk]

GP is rightly lauded for what he has achieved, but a lot of the fans at games have watched a LOT of football in their lives, and are unhappy with what they are seeing atm. It's not that GP is right and several thousand fans are wrong, it is that the football has taken a dive recently, and GP needs to take a step back and reassess the way forward

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Moan, moan, moan thats all I ever do and I have a pretty miserable existence.
You see, I have hopes and expectations and ambitions for my football club. I don't like standing still and I want to see progression and improvement. I want to aspire to higher things. I don't want to settle for always having rough patches. I prefer to be honest about my manager and my team and if they are not improving and not reaching the standard I expect, then I am going to have a moan. After all, I pay a lot money to follow my team, home and away and want some value for money. I invest in my team emotionally and it lifts me when we do well .
This a forum for expressing different views and paying fans, fans who attend games, who buy merchandise, programmes, food and drink and are continually contributing to the clubs coffers, have a right to be as negative as they like.
We are not all " ra ra everything in the garden is rosy and you negative idiots don't know how well your bread is buttered " types. We

I defy you to find any club where you would get your hopes, expectations and ambitions met. Maybe Barcelona could satisfy you?

 

[Stumpy Tim]

It doesnt detract, but Poyet was fortunate that he inherited a lot of good players, in crofts back then, bennett and most imortantly Murray.

If Poyet was to be fired...which i doubt, the single biggest turning point in his tenure will be allowing an on fire Murray who had scored for fun in League 1 to walk out the door, then try umpteen ways to replace his threat and fail every time.

I don't want to hark on about Murray its been done to death and its history, but if Poyet reflects to himself honestly he had the one thing he so desperately needed these last 2 seasons in his hands and for whatever reasons of ego or believing he new better that single decision and our consequent lack of goal scoring threat writes the story of where we are today.

Poyet was the first manager who got Murray playing & scoring regularly - before that he was a stroppy, injury-prone teenager. Crofts was given a free transfer by Gillingham & was doing "ok" under Slade. Bennett was also playing ok under Slade, but massively blossomed under Poyet. It was Poyet that made these players, not the other way round.

And let's not forget he then plucked Bridcutt from the Chelsea scrap heap and turned him into a Premiership-standard player

 

[MrShaun15]

I am starting to wonder wether he was lucky to join us when he did - I believe almost any boss would have managed what he did, It was "our moment" new stadium on the way etc that proppelled us on, destiny so to speak. Has the situation made many think he is actually better than he is?
Say he joined us now we have the new stadium and are mid table would he have a similar impact.

stupid post.

 

[chrissyboy01]

Poyet completely transformed the playing side. Look at El Abd. Who honestly thought that we would see him regularly starting and playing well in a Championship side who have serious promotion aspirations? The general consensus was that he was a league 1 or 2 clogger at best. How many other managers could have done that?

This is absolutely spot on. Great point.

 

[Quinney]

It's s 5 year plan, not even half way through. I should think Tony Bloom is quite happy with progress made so far. Clearly we should have won more game this season but overall I think we are progressing, just maybe not as quick as some on here would like.

 

[Phat Baz 68]

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[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

f***ing ridiculous thread.

 

[Frutos]

It's s 5 year plan, not even half way through. I should think Tony Bloom is quite happy with progress made so far. Clearly we should have won more game this season but overall I think we are progressing, just maybe not as quick as some on here would like.

Couldn't have said it better.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

It's s 5 year plan, not even half way through. I should think Tony Bloom is quite happy with progress made so far. Clearly we should have won more game this season but overall I think we are progressing, just maybe not as quick as some on here would like.

That.

People are so bloody impatient it's unbelievable. "We're going backwards" has got to be the most ridiculous phrase I keep on hearing. We've made tremendous progression. We're learning as a club. We're more of a solid team. Right now, we need a striker. All the pieces are coming together quite nicely if you ask me.

 

[Bigbelly]

I am starting to wonder wether he was lucky to join us when he did - I believe almost any boss would have managed what he did, It was "our moment" new stadium on the way etc that proppelled us on, destiny so to speak. Has the situation made many think he is actually better than he is?
Say he joined us now we have the new stadium and are mid table would he have a similar impact.

Agree and have always said that Gus well and truely landed on his feet being our manager. It must of felt like winning the lottery but the only downfall is he's spunking the winnings up the wall.

 

[Caveman]

He joined us a year and a half before we moved stadiums with us in the bottom 4 of League 1. I genuinely don't understand the need to belittle Poyet's achievements to justify wanting him out now.

This and it is getting f***ing tiresome now.