I e had similar discussions with people who can't understand that for clubs like ours or any club for that matter it's not just about trophies and not winning the league regularly isn't an issueI had some patronising Man Utd fan telling me in supercilious tones that 'it was good to see you small clubs doing well' the other day. I told him that he may have seen glory days of winning things, and 'disaster' to him may be not winning something that year - but I had Hereford and everything that led up to it, and that I pitied him because that was a far more important and meaningful experience than anything he and his club had ever, or would ever go through.