[Travel] Potential Speeding Ban

[PascalGroß Tips]

Can you sense if you're walking at 3, 4 or 5 mph? 25% is very noticeable at increasing speeds, but at lower ones....no, it isn't.

Most definitely I would know the difference between those speeds. 3 mph would be 20 minute miles - which would be a very slow stroll for me. 4 mph would be 15 minute miles. A lot of my walks (anything between 5 and 10 miles) are done at 15.5/16 minute miles - so 15 minutes for a mile would be quite a march for me that I’d struggle to keep up for more than a few miles or so. 5mph is getting to speed walking level and even a very try slow jog. So yeah … I’d certainly know the difference.

 

[birthofanorange]

Most definitely I would know the difference between those speeds. 3 mph would be 20 minute miles - which would be a very slow stroll for me. 4 mph would be 15 minute miles. A lot of my walks (anything between 5 and 10 miles) are done at 15.5/16 minute miles - so 15 minutes for a mile would be quite a march for me that I’d struggle to keep up for more than a few miles or so. 5mph is getting to speed walking level and even a very try slow jog. So yeah … I’d certainly know the difference.

...and you'd know your exact speed during each section of said walk. Righto.
(Without staring at your phone/fitbit/similar)

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

A UFO?

I don’t think he’s going to tell us …

 

[1066familyman]

I think this is the perfect car for you - a L5 vehicle that can operate entirely without human intervention in all conditions



BTW change of speed is very noticeable from 4mp to 8/9mp - I do it nearly every day on a mobility scooter!

Does it come with vocal fry as standard?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I don’t think he’s going to tell us …

Booooo

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

...and you'd know your exact speed during each section of said walk. Righto.

I do because I wear an Apple Watch which tells me my average minutes a mile.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I don't have a car - I drive a large vehicle for a living, and have done for 30 years. I owned my last vehicle over 20 years ago, and have no need for one.

Come on, what’s your ride?

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

...and you'd know your exact speed during each section of said walk. Righto.
(Without staring at your phone/fitbit/similar)

Here’s an example of a recent walk … just under 8 miles at 15 and a half minutes a mile.

 

[dazzer6666]

...and you'd know your exact speed during each section of said walk. Righto.
(Without staring at your phone/fitbit/similar)

Yep, breathing and heart rate. Bit like a speedo.

 

[birthofanorange]

I do because I wear an Apple Watch which tells me my average minutes a mile.

Thank you...so it gives you an average, not at which points you were a bit faster or slower. Hell, you may have been positively moosing your way downhill at a heady 6mph, yet slowed to a snail's pace of 3 mph on the uphill bits.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

...and you'd know your exact speed during each section of said walk. Righto.
(Without staring at your phone/fitbit/similar)

So you’ve now edited your message and added the ‘staring’ comment. No staring required. I’m an experienced walker and I know what pace I walk at. I know how it feels. Just like when I used to run marathons. My best marathon was 3 hours 26 minutes. I’d set out to do sub 3 hours 30 mins. I didn’t need to stare at my watch all the time … I knew and I could feel my pace. Same with my best half marathon which was 89 minutes. I’d set out to do sub 90 minutes and achieved that by knowing my pace.

It’s easy with experience. Just like an experienced driver shouldn’t need to keep staring at their speedo.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

Thank you...so it gives you an average, not at which points you were a bit faster or slower. Hell, you may have been positively moosing your way downhill at a heady 6mph, yet slowed to a snail's pace of 3 mph on the uphill bits.

Utter nonsense.

You are desperately trying to justify why you can’t drive at 20mph and are failing miserably. Good night.

 

[dazzer6666]

So you’ve now edited your message and added the ‘staring’ comment. No staring required. I’m an experienced walker and I know what pace I walk at. I know how it feels. Just like when I used to run marathons. My best marathon was 3 hours 26 minutes. I’d set out to do sub 3 hours 30 mins. I didn’t need to stare at my watch all the time … I knew and I could feel my pace. Same with my best half marathon which was 89 minutes. I’d set out to do sub 90 minutes and achieved that by knowing my pace.

It’s easy with experience. Just like an experienced driver shouldn’t need to keep staring at their speedo.

100% this. I can tell pretty accurately without looking at my watch whether I’m doing 7,8,9 or 10 min miles. A quick glance at the watch will confirm it. Just like driving really

 

[Zeberdi]

Thank you...so it gives you an average, not at which points you were a bit faster or slower. Hell, you may have been positively moosing your way downhill at a heady 6mph, yet slowed to a snail's pace of 3 mph on the uphill bits.

See my post above which you may have missed - change of speed is very very noticeable when you increase to 4mp from 9mp and vice versa.

I travel at this speed range DAILY and know exactly when my speed goes from 4mp to 9mp it is a massive difference at that range so not sure what you are basing the low speed argument on.

 

[upthealbion1970]

I have a small team of drivers all in less than a year old small vans, they all have road sign recognition and beep when they are going faster than the prescribed limit. There is no reason at all for any of my team to break the speed limit. I just don’t buy into the talk about not being able to concentrate on the speed and surroundings - if you can’t then should you be driving? For balance I drive something with over 370bhp and have no problems at all in staying within the limit when it’s 20….. yes I might open it up on dual carriageway with little or no traffic but when I do it’s knowing that if I get caught I’m going to pick some points up.

Despite all of this I do think points given should also relate to the number of miles the driver covers

 

[birthofanorange]

So you’ve now edited your message and added the ‘staring’ comment. No staring required. I’m an experienced walker and I know what pace I walk at. I know how it feels. Just like when I used to run marathons. My best marathon was 3 hours 26 minutes. I’d set out to do sub 3 hours 30 mins. I didn’t need to stare at my watch all the time … I knew and I could feel my pace. Same with my best half marathon which was 89 minutes. I’d set out to do sub 90 minutes and achieved that by knowing my pace.

It’s easy with experience. Just like an experienced driver shouldn’t need to keep staring at their speedo.

Simply untrue, sadly. The 5 mph is barely noticeable and easily exceeded, as all experienced drivers know.
To use a walking comparison is also a little disingenous, as there's not really many distractions to worry about, other than a blister.
Yep, easy....very easy to drive in such a way, in clear conditions.
Again, I don't condone speeding, but I will stand by my point that in normal city driving, one simply doesn't have the option of focusing on a very small variable....if one wants to maintain a safe passage for all from A to B.
Are we really arguing over 5 mph?

 

[dazzer6666]

Simply untrue, sadly. The 5 mph is barely noticeable and easily exceeded, as all experienced drivers know.
To use a walking comparison is also a little disingenous, as there's not really many distractions to worry about, other than a blister.
Yep, easy....very easy to drive in such a way, in clear conditions.
Again, I don't condone speeding, but I will stand by my point that in normal city driving, one simply doesn't have the option of focusing on a very small variable....if one wants to maintain a safe passage for all from A to B.
Are we really arguing over 5 mph?

You introduced the walking comparison

 

[birthofanorange]

See my post above which you may have missed - change of speed is very very noticeable when you increase to 4mp from 9mp and vice versa.

I travel at this speed range DAILY and know exactly when my speed goes from 4mp to 9mp it is a massive difference at that range so not sure what you are basing the low speed argument on.

That's a near doubling of speed - from 20 to 25 in a vehicle is barely noticeable.....unless that's your main focus.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

You introduced the walking comparison

And he STILL doesn’t tell us what he’s driving. Only that he’s not driving a car

It’s like listening to some of my old vinyl that keeps playing the same bit again and again and again

 

[1066familyman]

I have a small team of drivers all in less than a year old small vans, they all have road sign recognition and beep when they are going faster than the prescribed limit. There is no reason at all for any of my team to break the speed limit. I just don’t buy into the talk about not being able to concentrate on the speed and surroundings - if you can’t then should you be driving? For balance I drive something with over 370bhp and have no problems at all in staying within the limit when it’s 20….. yes I might open it up on dual carriageway with little or no traffic but when I do it’s knowing that if I get caught I’m going to pick some points up.

Despite all of this I do think points given should also relate to the number of miles the driver covers

How exactly?

What's the details of a system you have in mind?