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Piers Morgan should be tried and imprisoned.



Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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I played cricket against him last year. He plays for Newick 2's.

Smug and arrogant springs to mind.

he has a good forward defence though.
 




tedebear

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Jul 7, 2003
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This is THE MIRROR for gods sake - what I can't understand is why so many people take this rag as gospel truth - they reported Beckham having an affair and some people on here said nah it can't be true, so why can't these photos not be true? Do we believe everything we read - maybe thats the problem here...

The truth is out there - I just don't believe its on the front page of the Mirror...
 






Albion Dan

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Jul 8, 2003
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If Piers Morgan is up for Treason then Bush and Rumsfield should be up before the Hague on war crimes.

US Troops are now widely accepted to have made an iraqi inmate abuse himself with a banana, forced iraqis to perform sexual acts on each other, Rape etc etc.

If President Milosevic can be held accountable for what his troops did in Yugoslavia then why shouldnt Bush, Rumsfield, and if proven that UK soldiers are guilty Blair also.

Morgan was probably wrong if the pictures are fake and should go, there is still no proof of that by the way, and youd never expect this government to cover up would you? Look at Huttons report!

The real criminals in all this shit are the the Governments of the US and UK. All of the stuff that has come out has sent out the message that we are hardly better than Saddam was in our treatment of Iraqi people, and the fact that Saddams mistreatment of his people was the last credible reson for war in the first place makes this war completely indefensible.

We have now lost any chance we ever had of winning and acheiving the fraudulent objectives of Bush and Bliar.
 
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lincs seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
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Not being thick but the last i heard the goverment have said it was fake has it changed

this is the same goverment which said ther where weapons of mass destruction and they could not back that up

morgan is a turd but the goverment is also full of shit.
 


Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
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Does anyone believe labour are going to continue as Government on the next election?

I for one think they are finished, but then again they are all as bad as each other!!
 


Albion Dan

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11,125
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I wish there was a credible opposition that werent Tory, I can never vote Labour while that WANKER is in charge but would rather jump off beachy head than vote conservative.
 
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Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
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Albion Dan said:
I wish there was a bredible opposition that werent Tory, I can never vote Labour while that WANKER is in charge but would rather jump off beachy head than vote conservative.
My sentiments precisely. Except that I'm going to give the Lib Dems a chance in the next election. There are things I don't like about them but I think they deserve a chance.
 




maffew

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Dec 10, 2003
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tedebear said:
This is THE MIRROR for gods sake - what I can't understand is why so many people take this rag as gospel truth - they reported Beckham having an affair and some people on here said nah it can't be true, so why can't these photos not be true? Do we believe everything we read - maybe thats the problem here...

The truth is out there - I just don't believe its on the front page of the Mirror...

Tell that to the people of Iraq. They will certainly not believe that the pictures are fake now even if they wanted to
 




Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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The whole debate over what exactly the Daily Mirror is guilty of is clouded to some extent by the fact that virtually everyone dislikes Piers Morgan as a man, and would like to see him get his come-uppance.

Let's deal with the mitigating circumstances first. Yes, it was brave to go with this story, when he and everyone else knew it would create a shitstorm of the highest order. Yes, we're all glad that if there were abuses they were exposed. It's always going to be dealt with, at least, under this level of scrutiny. And yes, we do need a free press, ours is miles better than most.

But the bottom line is that Morgan got it wrong. You do have to be brave and gamble as an editor occasionally, and this one has blown up in his face. The very strong visual image left by the front-page photos was phoney, and won't easily be dispelled. The Arabs out there won't spend hours reading the Media Guardian web site to correct the mistaken impression they have gone away with.

It was a big mistake, and is only partially compensated for by the fact that the underlying story was true. All of which means he shouldn't be hanged, but should resign.
 


looney

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Jul 7, 2003
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Those pictures may be faked but you can bet your bottom dollar that atrocities are being committed behind closed doors by British troops - as used to happen at the height of the Troubles in Northern Ireland. If you think that British Army are a load of good, wholesome, clean-living boys who are fighting against a vicious, nasty, morally-bankrupt enemy then you are VERY brainwashed.

Both sides are as bad as each other.


It didn't just happen at the hight of the troubles it was carried out sporadically throughout, as with most conflicts. This is for 2 main reasons, 1 the types who join up(They are hardly male hairdressers) and secondly a break down in the chain of command.

Shit happens

Oh and both sides are not as bad as each other, who says so? The f***ing Geneva Convention on the articles of war says so you ignorant moral relativist little wank.

Try f***ing reading it sometime moron.:tosser:

Excuse me for getting a bit pissed but a few sqauddies abusing prisoners is not the same as wholesale slaughter of women and children. And its quite easy to find out where the failure in command took place, hence investigations which predate Gormless Morgans little stunt.
 


looney

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Jul 7, 2003
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Seem to remember lefties yapping that the lib dems would replace torries as the second party?

Seems like the libdems will replace labour from whats in this thread AND more realistic.:lolol:
 




Hannibal smith

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Jul 7, 2003
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tedebear said:
This is THE MIRROR for gods sake - what I can't understand is why so many people take this rag as gospel truth - they reported Beckham having an affair and some people on here said nah it can't be true, so why can't these photos not be true? Do we believe everything we read - maybe thats the problem here...

The truth is out there - I just don't believe its on the front page of the Mirror...


This is slightly different though. If Beckham wants to blow his beans up some old slapper and it turns out to be false then so be it, I'm sure he will be adequately compensated in the courts.

If these false pictures cause a civil revolt in Iraq and soldiers lose their life's then this is much more serious. He should have given the pictures to the MOD and given them a week to prove their authenticity. If they couldn't, he could print them with his back covered. His Stupidity has probably cost him his job and put people at danger just a sell a few more copies of his greasy rag. Talk about a man with no shame.

On the other point that the accounts may be true but the pictures false, Surely it is innocent until proven guilty?
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,937
Surrey
looney said:
It didn't just happen at the hight of the troubles it was carried out sporadically throughout, as with most conflicts. This is for 2 main reasons, 1 the types who join up(They are hardly male hairdressers) and secondly a break down in the chain of command.

Shit happens

Oh and both sides are not as bad as each other, who says so? The f***ing Geneva Convention on the articles of war says so you ignorant moral relativist little wank.

Try f***ing reading it sometime moron.:tosser:

Excuse me for getting a bit pissed but a few sqauddies abusing prisoners is not the same as wholesale slaughter of women and children. And its quite easy to find out where the failure in command took place, hence investigations which predate Gormless Morgans little stunt.
Some of your post actually sense for a change there looney. Well done. ;)

But I'm sorry - the Geneva Convention does NOT determine which side is behaving better although I too am in no doubt that British troops are mostly kept in check, unlike the rabble of Arabs who think hacking off the heads of innocent civilians is fair and reasonable in the name of war. :nono:

One more thing - it probably is easy to find where the blame lies for this chain of command breakdown, but if it's anyone too near the top it'll be whitewashed - the people at the top rarely get punished for their poor quality actions. That is why your bum chum, dubya, will never be impeached for taking his country into war on a premise that turns out to be a LIE.
 




tedebear

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Hannibal smith said:
This is slightly different though. If Beckham wants to blow his beans up some old slapper and it turns out to be false then so be it, I'm sure he will be adequately compensated in the courts.

If these false pictures cause a civil revolt in Iraq and soldiers lose their life's then this is much more serious. He should have given the pictures to the MOD and given them a week to prove their authenticity. If they couldn't, he could print them with his back covered. His Stupidity has probably cost him his job and put people at danger just a sell a few more copies of his greasy rag. Talk about a man with no shame.

On the other point that the accounts may be true but the pictures false, Surely it is innocent until proven guilty?

Yep - totally agree, the implications of the publishing of these "pictures" is a byproduct I'm sure he didn't contemplate, or if he did then he is simply unpatriotic.... I was merely comenting on peoples anger that these photos have turned out to possibly be staged....
 




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