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Piers Morgan should be tried and imprisoned.



Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
43,557
Lancing
If guilty , is day followed by night ?.

Piers " smug git , insider trader " Morgan should be imprisoned for being a traitor.

Discuss.
 














whitelion

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Dec 16, 2003
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Southwick
Treason might be a little strong. There's no doubt that The Mirror (Piers Morgan) acted in a libellous manner.

He's been very reckless and now says that the photos are a "portrayal of events" in Iraq whereas they were purported to be truthful. He should be penalised in a very strong way, hope he resigns and is taken to court.


And issues a grovelling apology!!! But I doubt that he will......
 


The Mirror pictures turn out to be fakes.

Nevertheless we should accept that the pictures are relevant. The actual evidence presented might be phoney, but the problem portrayed is serious and real.









That is identical to the argument used by the Government to defend its own "evidence" that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
 


Biscuit

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Jul 8, 2003
22,401
Brighton
Lord Bracknell said:
The Mirror pictures turn out to be fakes.

Nevertheless we should accept that the pictures are relevant. The actual evidence presented might be phoney, but the problem portrayed is serious and real.









That is identical to the argument used by the Government to defend its own "evidence" that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.

Still, he should be done for treason! Hang him!
 




Smithers-Jones

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Mar 26, 2004
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Eltham
He should certainly be prosecuted. At the start of this whole business he never once said they were re-enactments. He published them as genuine. It was only when people started questioning the validity of them that he changed his tune to say they were "representive of real events" The man has always been a liar and a shyster and deserves to be done. Having said that, I don't think the government will, as the whole thing is too much of a hot potato for Blair. A court case could drag out a whole load of other stuff which could damage him.
 


finbar

Active member
Jul 15, 2003
249
Hove
Whats he done thats made him a traitor?

Presumably you mean something to do with the photos. If they are fake should the 7 soldiers who confirm their authenticity and the events that happened be tried as traitors too? Or should they all be applauded for exposing what is going on? Should those who are allowing it to happen and perpetrated it be tried under the articles Geneva Convention or UK law - discuss.

Or maybe let off completely because as some people say, well, they're only iraqis, and probably deserved it, and what were they doing in prison in the first place eh?
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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Ed

I respect your anti war views which you reason well although I disagree.

However on this noone, surely noone , anti or pro war can possibly reason this was in anyones interests.
 




Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
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officially, he should be done for Treason. he has put the security of Britain and it's serving soldiers at risk.

Now unless I am mistaken that is at least a life sentence??

:angry:
 


Gareth Glover said:
Ed

I respect your anti war views which you reason well although I disagree.

However on this noone, surely noone , anti or pro war can possibly reason this was in anyones interests.
When we went to war, the big question for me was "Why are the Intelligence Services lying to us?"

The question now is "Why are ordinary soldiers lying to the Daily Mirror?" Presumably they think that this hoax is in someone's interest.
 






Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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Those pictures may be faked but you can bet your bottom dollar that atrocities are being committed behind closed doors by British troops - as used to happen at the height of the Troubles in Northern Ireland. If you think that British Army are a load of good, wholesome, clean-living boys who are fighting against a vicious, nasty, morally-bankrupt enemy then you are VERY brainwashed.

Both sides are as bad as each other. Read 'Stalingrad', nothing's changed, soldiers might start off with good ideals but it soon becomes kill or be killed. Truth might be the first casualty of war but basic human decency is a close second.
 


Biscuit

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Jul 8, 2003
22,401
Brighton
The Northstander said:
officially, he should be done for Treason. he has put the security of Britain and it's serving soldiers at risk.

Now unless I am mistaken that is at least a life sentence??

:angry:

I have to agree. After claiming the photo's were real, British soldiers came under attack at the tempory prisons. I dont know if any Britians were killed as a result but if they were - its on his concious. And quite right again Northstander "he has put the security of Britain and it's serving soldiers at risk", surly thats treason.
 


Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
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Lord Bracknell said:
When we went to war, the big question for me was "Why are the Intelligence Services lying to us?"

The question now is "Why are ordinary soldiers lying to the Daily Mirror?" Presumably they think that this hoax is in someone's interest.

As far as I am aware they arent even full time Army but TA, people in otherwords who enjoy civilian life but like holding a big machine gun on the weekend!

They have done this to raise a fast buck! As far as I am concenred it's Treason!!

From an EX-Full time member of the British Forces!!
 
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Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,937
Surrey
Biscuit said:
I have to agree. After claiming the photo's were real, British soldiers came under attack at the tempory prisons. I dont know if any Britians were killed as a result but if they were - its on his concious. And quite right again Northstander "he has put the security of Britain and it's serving soldiers at risk", surly thats treason.
You'd have to prove he knew it was fake to even contemplate Morgan being guilty of treason.

Bliar sent British troops to war on the premise that was a blatent lie. Those reasons were then "sexed" up to sound more palatable to the electorate of this country. Bliar and his arse licking cronies are the f***ing DISGRACE.
 




Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,401
Brighton
Treason was still theoretically punishable by death in Britain until 1998.

27th January 1999. The Home Secretary (Jack Straw) formally signed the 6th protocol of the European Convention of Human Rights in Strasbourg, on behalf of the British government formally abolishing the death penalty in the UK. It had been still theoretically available for treason and piracy up to then but it was extremely unlikely that even if anyone had been convicted of these crimes over the preceding 30 years that they would have actually been executed. Successive Home Secretaries had always reprieved persons sentenced to death in the Channel Islands and Isle of Man where the death sentence for murder could still be passed and the Royal Prerogative was observed.

So...just a life behind bars then!
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,694
Brovian said:
Both sides are as bad as each other. Read 'Stalingrad', nothing's changed, soldiers might start off with good ideals but it soon becomes kill or be killed. Truth might be the first casualty of war but basic human decency is a close second.

Rubbish. I remember Gulf War 1, when captured Allied airmen were beaten up and paraded on camera for the world to see with the full backing of Saddam Hussein's regime. I don't recall the West doing the same to captured Iraqis.

Re. Piers Morgan, we must not get sidetracked away from the key issue, which is whether the photos are genuine or not. Morgan had a moral obligation to verify this before publishing - he did not do the right thing, and has endangered lives as a result.

There is a list of reasons as long as your arm as to why he should go. If I was a Mirror Group shareholder I would be calling for his head because he has made the paper a laughing stock and readership will fall as a result.

The fact that there is a genuine issue worthy of discussion - the treatment of prisoners by British Armed Forces - does not excuse Morgan's reckless actions.
 


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