Footsoldier
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- May 26, 2013
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Until you've been under fire, and seen comrades horribly wounded, I guarantee you don't.
Not to mention soldiers seeing fellow comrades body parts hanging from trees.
Until you've been under fire, and seen comrades horribly wounded, I guarantee you don't.
Quite a few 'well known NSC thickets ' would have us believe Omar Deghayes , and other Guantanamo detainess who were in Afghanistan for 'computer courses'.Guilty. Murder. Who else are we going to be asked to exonerate on NSC?
None of this matters. He executed a wounded, defenceless human being in cold blood, and knew exactly what he was doing in the process. I know enough about myself to know I could never bring myself to do that.
The bloke he shot would not have thought twice about killing the solider if it was the other way round. I don't agree with what he done, but my nephew was part of K company at the same time as this incident and he said it was blooming awful at the time of the killing and all of them was on edge, they had lost a few men in the weeks leading up to the incident and ALL were in a bad place mentally because of the losses. For you to say you would never do the same is rubbish in my opinion because unless you are there and in those situations you don't know how you would react. My nephew said that even under attack they were not allowed to fire back until permission was given from above, this caused HUGE stress on a lot of marines who are trained to kill, but were not allowed too because of stupid rules agreed years ago. Unless you were there, I fail to see how you can make a comment like you have. for the record, 7 of my nephews company never returned including "fish" who was his room mate through training.
None of this matters. He executed a wounded, defenceless human being in cold blood, and knew exactly what he was doing in the process. I know enough about myself to know I could never bring myself to do that.
He has been told he will serve AT LEAST ten years.Its horrible agreeing with Bushy, but.. I think the circumstances for this type of thing, make it different from your usual type of murder. Its in a battlefield, and whilst what he did, was wrong, and hopefully, an isolated incident, I think a 10 year sentence is harsh. Having said that, he is unlikely to serve 10 years is he.
On a different note.
All these online petitions are the government dream, it stops people taking to the streets
I think its difficult. I can understand the stress, but also understand that this was indeed a criminal act. I hope, this
was a very isolated incident. Think his sentence could be reduced somewhat, considering the local circumstances.
If the Taliban ever released a video of one of their combatants, shooting dead a wounded British soldier, there would be uproar.
And if a member of the Taliban did this and was then tried and convicted of murder as a result would you think that he should be cleared because he is doing a stressful job in a stressful situation and that would be enough of an excuse to override the fact that he shot an unarmed person who posed no threat to him or his colleagues and stated that he knew what he was doing was completely wrong at the time?
Would you sign that petition too?
I disagree with most of what you post (sorry, nothing personal, or 'owt). But that is spot on.
He has been told he will serve AT LEAST ten years.
Not me though. That of course, is entirely irrelevant to this thread.Quite a few 'well known NSC thickets ' would have us believe Omar Deghayes , and other Guantanamo detainess who were in Afghanistan for 'computer courses'.
Why? We think of ourselves as better than the likes of the Taliban because we are disgusted by their brutality and backward views. As soon as we stoop to their level we are no better than them and have no right to pass judgement. I, like countless other, have massive respect for our troops. I don't think for a second I could do what they do, under the pressure and trauma they're under. But that does not justify what he did. It was not a moment of madness in the heat of battle, it was a calculated execution. He deserves punishment in the same way any other murderer does.
Not me though. That of course, is entirely irrelevant to this thread.
The fact is that Marine A was found guilty of murder. So maybe it is the verdict that needs to be challenged. Because I for one am very uncomfortable with dishing out tin pot custodial stretches for MURDER, which is what some people seem to be calling for.
And if marine A had been Polish, Romanian, Russian, Chinese, Nigerian or whatever rather than British would your feelings be the same?
Not to mention soldiers seeing fellow comrades body parts hanging from trees.