Simon Morgan
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Well this looks pretty bloody ghastly...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_State_child_sex_abuse_scandal
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_State_child_sex_abuse_scandal
Penn State scandal
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Gritt23
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It's absolutely diabolical, and has been covered elsewhere a bit.
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?232042-The-OFFICIAL-NFL-2012-Thread&p=5030154&viewfull=1#post5030154
There is just so much that is shocking, from the extent of the cover-up, to the blatant, 100% clear knowledge they had of what Sandusky was, to teh fact that Penn State WAS known for how honourable a programme it was, with dear old Joe running the whole thing. Literally EVERYONE loved Joe, and now his reputation is rightly in absolute tatters for his complete and utter failure to protect these young boys from Sandusky.
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?232042-The-OFFICIAL-NFL-2012-Thread&p=5030154&viewfull=1#post5030154
There is just so much that is shocking, from the extent of the cover-up, to the blatant, 100% clear knowledge they had of what Sandusky was, to teh fact that Penn State WAS known for how honourable a programme it was, with dear old Joe running the whole thing. Literally EVERYONE loved Joe, and now his reputation is rightly in absolute tatters for his complete and utter failure to protect these young boys from Sandusky.
Igor Gurinovich?
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interesting reaction piece to the sanctions on SI.com Penn State -- NCAA sanctions reinforce overemphasis on winning - Michael Rosenberg - SI.com
Bladders
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Mark Emmert is a grand-stander who loves the sound of his own voice, he's actually loving the exposure he's getting over this, he's been on more U.S chat shows in the last couple of weeks than a D-List celebrity.
The fact is the NCAA actually had no power to to dish out these punishments on PSU, this is no more than Caesar justice cause the masses want it. This is a criminal case which is in the hands of the FBI, local law enforcement agencies and the District Attorney.
PSU could easily take the NCAA to court over this and easily win as they have gone well outside their remit, but they wont as the public backlash would be huge. So they have just decided to shut their mouths and take it on the chin, and the NCAA knew they probably would. The NCAA even asked the BIG-10 if they minded ffs.
This piece on ESPN yesterday pretty much shows that the NCAA are just making this up as they go along:
The former chair, who has been involved with the NCAA for nearly three decades, said he couldn't use his name on the record because the case could come before him and the committee he still serves on in an appeals process.
"This is unique and this kind of power has never been tested or tried," the former chair said. "It's unprecedented to have this extensive power. This has nothing to do with the purpose of the infractions process. Nevertheless, somehow (the NCAA president and executive board) have taken it on themselves to be a commissioner and to penalize a school for improper conduct."
The chair said that the NCAA was dealing with a case that is outside the traditional rules or violations. He said this case does not fall within the basic fundamental purpose of NCAA regulations.
"The purpose of the NCAA is to keep a level playing field among schools and to make sure they use proper methods through scholarships and et cetera," the chair said. "This is not a case that would normally go through the process. It has nothing to do with a level playing field. It has nothing to do with whether Penn State gets advantages over other schools in recruiting or in the number of coaches or things that we normally deal with."
The NCAA, the chair said, had never gotten involved in punishing schools for criminal behavior.
"The criminal courts are perfectly capable of handling these situations," the former chair said. "This is a new phase and a new thing. They are getting into bad behavior that are somehow connected to those who work in the athletic department.
"This is an important precedent. And it should be taken with extreme care."
Whats going to happen here is everyone currently associated with PSU and who had nothing what so ever to do with this scandal will be punished i.e the current players, coaching staff, Athletics director and school governors etc. I'm not sure how ruining this program for the next decade is going to solve anything, SMU have never fully recovered from their Death penalty.
Personally I feel the NCAA should have left it to PSU, whilst quietly leaning on them, to come up with some kind of self imposed punishment , no TV exposure for 2 seasons would have been a good start and self imposed fine/donation.
This sort of investigation should be left to the real Police, not the Keystone Cops of the NCAA.
The fact is the NCAA actually had no power to to dish out these punishments on PSU, this is no more than Caesar justice cause the masses want it. This is a criminal case which is in the hands of the FBI, local law enforcement agencies and the District Attorney.
PSU could easily take the NCAA to court over this and easily win as they have gone well outside their remit, but they wont as the public backlash would be huge. So they have just decided to shut their mouths and take it on the chin, and the NCAA knew they probably would. The NCAA even asked the BIG-10 if they minded ffs.
This piece on ESPN yesterday pretty much shows that the NCAA are just making this up as they go along:
The former chair, who has been involved with the NCAA for nearly three decades, said he couldn't use his name on the record because the case could come before him and the committee he still serves on in an appeals process.
"This is unique and this kind of power has never been tested or tried," the former chair said. "It's unprecedented to have this extensive power. This has nothing to do with the purpose of the infractions process. Nevertheless, somehow (the NCAA president and executive board) have taken it on themselves to be a commissioner and to penalize a school for improper conduct."
The chair said that the NCAA was dealing with a case that is outside the traditional rules or violations. He said this case does not fall within the basic fundamental purpose of NCAA regulations.
"The purpose of the NCAA is to keep a level playing field among schools and to make sure they use proper methods through scholarships and et cetera," the chair said. "This is not a case that would normally go through the process. It has nothing to do with a level playing field. It has nothing to do with whether Penn State gets advantages over other schools in recruiting or in the number of coaches or things that we normally deal with."
The NCAA, the chair said, had never gotten involved in punishing schools for criminal behavior.
"The criminal courts are perfectly capable of handling these situations," the former chair said. "This is a new phase and a new thing. They are getting into bad behavior that are somehow connected to those who work in the athletic department.
"This is an important precedent. And it should be taken with extreme care."
Whats going to happen here is everyone currently associated with PSU and who had nothing what so ever to do with this scandal will be punished i.e the current players, coaching staff, Athletics director and school governors etc. I'm not sure how ruining this program for the next decade is going to solve anything, SMU have never fully recovered from their Death penalty.
Personally I feel the NCAA should have left it to PSU, whilst quietly leaning on them, to come up with some kind of self imposed punishment , no TV exposure for 2 seasons would have been a good start and self imposed fine/donation.
This sort of investigation should be left to the real Police, not the Keystone Cops of the NCAA.
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HastingsSeagull
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Was out there when if first was reported, glad it's all come out and people can try to move on. Devasting on the program and now punishing the kids for the future who had nothing to do with it, but at least the situation is clear and decided and there hopefully won't be further penalties. Everyone can try and move on and the scum behind this has effectively been given a life sentance so