Paul Ince to Blackburn Rovers?

[Gully]

I have always considered Blackburn to be the sort of club we should aim to emulate, granted they had a big injection of cash from Sir Jack that helped them to the title, but since then they have rarely flirted with relegation and seem more than able to hold their heads high amongst many with far greater resources.

 

[Munkfish]

I have always considered Blackburn to be the sort of club we should aim to emulate, granted they had a big injection of cash from Sir Jack that helped them to the title, but since then they have rarely flirted with relegation and seem more than able to hold their heads high amongst many with far greater resources.

did they not get relegated then come back up?

 

[sten_super]

did they not get relegated then come back up?

Yep, I think it was Kidd who took them down, and the (much derided) Graeme Souness who bought them up (and kept them up).

 

[Uncle Buck]

As an aside, I see this Uefa Pro Licence is once again WELL worth the paper its written on. Ince will be getting "special dispensation", just like everyone else who doesn't bother with it. What a pointless rule.

I think he has got round it on the same basis that Southgate did initally, that he has only stopped playing in the last 18 months, so has not had time to get it. I think he was player manager at Maccesfield.

Like Southgate I pressume that he will now be told to get it sorted quickly.

In one sense you are correct that if their rules are such that managers should have their licence than that is the rule. However there does I guess need to be some dispensation when appointing a young manager, especially if they want the odd half competant English manager.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I thought it was tremendous how Newcastle really stuck with Allardyce though, and really gave him every chance during that 5 months he was there.

That's the ruthless nature of football nowadays. It's a results business and he just didn't win enough games. I think it's right to say that Newcastle are particuarly guilty of being a badly run club in this respect though; when are they ever going to learn and get a managerial appointment right?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

fair play to Ince. He's not jumped straight in at the deep end and taken on a big club. Its refreshing to see a former high-profile player learning the ropes at the arse-end of the League before progressing to the bigger clubs.

A future England manager ? I hope so.

No fair play about it. He had no choice but to start at the bottom. An article in one of the broadsheets a few weeks back hinted at racism, citing the fact that other ex-Utd players of his generation were already/had managed in the Premiership. Personally I don't think racism comes into it, just lack of credentials which is why he started his managerial career where he did.

 

[Easy 10]

No fair play about it. He had no choice but to start at the bottom. An article in one of the broadsheets a few weeks back hinted at racism, citing the fact that other ex-Utd players of his generation were already/had managed in the Premiership. Personally I don't think racism comes into it, just lack of credentials which is why he started his managerial career where he did.

I don't buy the "racism" thing either, but if you're talking about a lack of credentials - there's bucketloads of ex-players who have walked into jobs in the Premiership with nothing except a decent playing career behind them on their CV. I may be wrong, but I was under the impression Ince decided to "cut his teeth" lower down the scale before diving into a top job.

 

[Uncle Buck]

I don't buy the "racism" thing either, but if you're talking about a lack of credentials - there's bucketloads of ex-players who have walked into jobs in the Premiership with nothing except a decent playing career behind them on their CV. I may be wrong, but I was under the impression Ince decided to "cut his teeth" lower down the scale before diving into a top job.

I think you are right. Am sure Wolves approached him whilst he was still on their books as a player and he turned them down.

 

[Gully]

did they not get relegated then come back up?

I missed that, they can't have been down for long.

 

[Easy 10]

I think you are right. Am sure Wolves approached him whilst he was still on their books as a player and he turned them down.

Yes think I vaguely remember hearing about that.
I didn't have much time for him as a player, but he seems to have something about him as a manager. Clearly the players he's been in charge of so far have responded to him, as well they might with him being one of the best english midfielders of his generation and a former England captain. Whether he'll be able to command that kind of respect amongst the players at Premiership level remains to be seen, but Blackburn would seem an ideal choice for him. They don't seem to be overrun with egos like most other clubs in the Prem, and Hughes has left an excellent set-up behind him. That in itself will bring its own pressure of course, but better that than trying to turn round a sinking ship.

 

[sten_super]

No fair play about it. He had no choice but to start at the bottom. An article in one of the broadsheets a few weeks back hinted at racism, citing the fact that other ex-Utd players of his generation were already/had managed in the Premiership. Personally I don't think racism comes into it, just lack of credentials which is why he started his managerial career where he did.

I think it was a deliberate decision; I'd be very suprised if he hadn't been offered other bigger jobs before starting at Macclesfield. But it was a good job, as he was on a hiding to nothing; they were expected to get relegated, so if they had it would have been no surprise. Then from there he was offered the MK dons job; a big club who were underachieving, another good job. And now Blackburn; a well run, stable Premiership club who tend to back a manager.

 

[Silent Bob]

I think you are right. Am sure Wolves approached him whilst he was still on their books as a player and he turned them down.

I thought it was the other way around, he was desperate to manage Wolves but they opted to get Mick McCarthy in instead.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I believe Mr Bob is correct.

 

[Brovion]

I agree with the general consensus that Blackburn is a good move for him. Hopefully he'll do well there as we could do with some top-class English managers and I'll certainly be looking out for their results next season.

And yes, Blackburn ARE a well-run club. How do I know that? Because I don't know the name of their Chairman.