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[Albion] Pascal Groß the raumdeuter

























Johnny RoastBeef

These aren't the players you're looking for.
Jan 11, 2016
3,336
The post says otherwise though.

Pascal has been saying he wants to go back to Germany for months and the club has been bidding on suitable replacements.

Its safe to say we have given permission, regardless of what some journalist writes.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
Oct 4, 2003
11,493
The post says otherwise though.
No it doesn’t. The post says that Brighton and Dortmund are negotiating the transfer.

A transfer fee doesn’t have to be agreed before a player can talk to another club.

If it’s got to this stage then the club are likely well aware and any conversation between the players rep and any other club will have happened with our knowledge and permission.
 






JamesAndTheGiantHead

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2011
6,314
Worthing
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American Seagle

Well-known member
Jun 14, 2022
799
No it doesn’t. The post says that Brighton and Dortmund are negotiating the transfer.

A transfer fee doesn’t have to be agreed before a player can talk to another club.

If it’s got to this stage then the club are likely well aware and any conversation between the players rep and any other club will have happened with our knowledge and permission.
Why would the club give permission first? It does not benefit them to do that. It would have us in a stronger position to make them bid first.
 


American Seagle

Well-known member
Jun 14, 2022
799
Pascal has been saying he wants to go back to Germany for months and the club has been bidding on suitable replacements.

Its safe to say we have given permission, regardless of what some journalist writes.
I have not seen a suitable replacement bid on or am I missing something. Again, I would be amazed it Dortmund could afford a player that is so important and one of the top creators in the EPL.
 




Affy

Silent Assassin
Aug 16, 2019
536
Sussex by the Sea
Why would the club give permission first? It does not benefit them to do that. It would have us in a stronger position to make them bid first.
Out of respect to Pascal who has been exceptional and professional in every single sense since he signed for the club. As previous posters have pointed out, he has been clear in saying he wants to return to Germany. We do not need to be a “strong position” for this. We are letting Pascal move on not get another record transfer fee.
 


Johnny RoastBeef

These aren't the players you're looking for.
Jan 11, 2016
3,336
I have not seen a suitable replacement bid on or am I missing something. Again, I would be amazed it Dortmund could afford a player that is so important and one of the top creators in the EPL.

Yes, we had a bid accepted for Dewsbury-Hall, but missed out.

We have also bid for Georginio Rutter of Leeds.

Both are serial assist makers, just like Gross. It looks like we are trying to replace his creativity, albeit in a slightly different form.
 


Affy

Silent Assassin
Aug 16, 2019
536
Sussex by the Sea
I have not seen a suitable replacement bid on or am I missing something. Again, I would be amazed it Dortmund could afford a player that is so important and one of the top creators in the EPL.
Weiffer coming in alongside WBG will allow a new CAM. Could be Facu or Julio or a new signing.

You won’t see a replacement Gross come in simply because there isn’t one. He is a unique player.
As to price, see my previous, this will be an “undisclosed” transfer I suspect with a token fee for a 33 year old in his last year of contract. Despite stats, this isn’t going to be a lot. Man Utd signed Christian Ronaldo 3 years ago for around £12m. Fair to say he had a better rep and stats than Gross.
 


American Seagle

Well-known member
Jun 14, 2022
799
Out of respect to Pascal who has been exceptional and professional in every single sense since he signed for the club. As previous posters have pointed out, he has been clear in saying he wants to return to Germany. We do not need to be a “strong position” for this. We are letting Pascal move on not get another record transfer fee.
I absolutely do not get this. Why would we out ourselves in a weaker position to potentially loose a critical player? Why do we not need to be in a strong position?
 




Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

Waxing chumps like candles since ‘75
Oct 4, 2003
11,493
Why would the club give permission first? It does not benefit them to do that. It would have us in a stronger position to make them bid first.
The club have always been very open that they don’t stand in the way of a player leaving if the time is right. Pascal has a year left on his contract, if he’s made it obvious that he doesn’t want to sign any new deal and wishes to go back to Germany then the time is right as this is our last chance to get a fee for him. For that reason they wouldn’t stop his representatives from talking to another club. While this is going on the clubs will be talking about transfer fees as well.

This won’t just happen on this deal it will happen on most deals as it’s a lot easier to establish that everyone is roughly on the same page early to no one wastes any time.

Also it could be argued that by Dortmund agreeing a contract with Gross that we’ve now got something they really really want and we can push our end of the deal more.


I have not seen a suitable replacement bid on or am I missing something. Again, I would be amazed it Dortmund could afford a player that is so important and one of the top creators in the EPL.
Dortmund are buying a player with one season left on his contract, that and his age will keep the fee well within what Dortmund can afford, rather than any fee being boosted because he’s one of the most creative players in the PL. That is simple football economics.
 


American Seagle

Well-known member
Jun 14, 2022
799
Yes, we had a bid accepted for Dewsbury-Hall, but missed out.

We have also bid for Georginio Rutter of Leeds.

Both are serial assist makers, just like Gross. It looks like we are trying to replace his creativity, albeit in a slightly different form.
None are replacements are they come on.
 


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