[Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

[Pevenseagull]

Sky News has improved since Murdoch ****ed off.

https://news.sky.com/story/owen-pat...-will-be-condemned-as-tory-stitch-up-12459037

 

[vegster]

Yes. That more or less covers it.

It’s all massively disagreeable. His proposed “punishment” was a 30 day suspension, which seems fairly meagre as a sanction to begin with. Even this was too much for the poor little corrupt lamb and strings were pulled.

Oh yes. And he got to vote on the amendment too, thereby having a direct say in amending the system to his advantage.

Absolutely disgraceful.

And he got to keep his ill-gotten cash.

 

[The Clamp]

Disgraceful.

 

[lawros left foot]

None of the usual Conservative party apologists posting on this thread.

Too much for even them to stomach?

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

I thought the Republicans brought politics to a new low by being Trump enablers and not batting an eyelid at any of the antics he got up to.

Looks as if the Tories are running a very close second.

 

[The Clamp]

None of the usual Conservative party apologists posting on this thread.

Too much for even them to stomach?

More likely they lack the wits to bullshit through this one.

 

[lawros left foot]

I thought the Republicans brought politics to a new low by being Trump enablers and not batting an eyelid at any of the antics he got up to.

Looks as if the Tories are running a very close second.

A quick question Lyndhurst, what is the take among sane Americans on the shenanigans in Dallas yesterday?

 

[usernamed]

Lots of threads in the bear pit on this very subject.

I try to stay out of there. Life is short.


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[Questions]

We were a laughing stock, now we are beginning to plumb the depths of genuine corrupt governance in the same manner as Erdogan and Orban have abused office.

Sadly I can't see a way out of this, Johnson is not called to account for his lies and misdemeanours and the 80 seat majority means he can get away with anything. We have a client press and many broadcasters are compliant and afraid of the threats by the government attack dogs. So many ministers lie and break rules without an comeback and to top it all we have a supine electorate that can't see the catastrophe unfolding.

And people aren’t wearing enough hats.

 

[studio150]

None of the usual Conservative party apologists posting on this thread.

Too much for even them to stomach?

It's a double blow for most of them, given that Patterson is both a tory and a brexiter., so no wonder Johnson wanted to support him.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He is earning more in bribes than his Parliamentary wages.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

A quick question Lyndhurst, what is the take among sane Americans on the shenanigans in Dallas yesterday?

Complete disbelief and hoping the more insane the QAnon conspiracy theories get the more their credibility will be shot, but they aren't holding their breath !

This has also been circulating on social media, which is a bit weird considering his sentencing isn't until November 17

 

[bhanutz]

No. There are some.

The 'tory scum' trope is not appropriate and is part of the reason labour STILL don't have enough support to dislodge this crime gang.

Floating voters win elections and suggesting that anyone who has voted in the past for the tories is, by definition, not decent is what labour used to call 'no compromise with the electorate'.

I want change, and saying 'yah boo' to former tory voters (and we are all former voters till the next time we vote) should not be part of the campaign.

We will never agree... but I respect your opinions.

 

[BBassic]

Complete disbelief and hoping the more insane the QAnon conspiracy theories get the more their credibility will be shot, but they aren't holding their breath !

This has also been circulating on social media, which is a bit weird considering his sentencing isn't until November 17

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I saw yesterday hundreds of those QAnon types had gathered in Dallas awaiting the return of JFK and JFK Jr.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

We will never agree... but I respect your opinions.

That's very kind of you

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Is my understanding correct? That rather than accept the findings of an impartial parliamentary investigation into this individual’s behaviour, he’s persuaded his colleagues to instead vote for a complete reworking of the rules around MPs behaviour, conveniently letting himself off the hook, and avoiding the risk of a by-election?


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The bit I don’t get is surely he was “convicted” under the old (current) system so how come they have decided the sentence has now to be put on hold until they have a new system. Does that mean anyone found guilty under the old system can now retrospectively claim to be “retried” under the new system

 

[lawros left foot]

Complete disbelief and hoping the more insane the QAnon conspiracy theories get the more their credibility will be shot, but they aren't holding their breath !

This has also been circulating on social media, which is a bit weird considering his sentencing isn't until November 17

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When I first saw it, I did think it was a parody and I thought it was quite amusing. Then I realised that they were for real and I then found it both hilarious on so many levels and quite frightening.

The rumours that Robin Williams had turned up was of the scale mad.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The bit I don’t get is surely he was “convicted” under the old (current) system so how come they have decided the sentence has now to be put on hold until they have a new system. Does that mean anyone found guilty under the old system can now retrospectively claim to be “retried” under the new system

The government doesn’t like being held to account so they are rejecting the findings, and want a new Parliamentary Standards committee headed up by John Whittingdale.
Marking their own homework, so to speak.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It's a double blow for most of them, given that Patterson is both a tory and a brexiter., so no wonder Johnson wanted to support him.

They will wait till there are a couple of hundred posts, most of us have said our bit, and the stragglers and latecomers are discussing peripheral issues, perhaps revisiting the 'tory scum' trope, and then they will POUNCE, with whataboutery.

As usual

 

[Publius Ovidius]

So, a MP breaks the rules, gets found guilty by the cross party committee and suspends him.

The ducking tories then decide to change the rules so he gets away with it and will have their own committee made up of their own to judge these things


This is beyond farce now. This is corruption and self interest in the extreme.