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SeagullEd

New member
Jan 18, 2008
788
For all you who have moved on from blaming the manager and chairmen for Brighton not being as good as you think we should be and have turned on the coaching as a scape goat....

Just a couple of questions really...


A) What evidence have you got that i) the coaching is faulty
ii)it's the coaches, not the set up
iii)we could get in better quality coaches

B) This is, by and large, the same coaching team that got us promoted numerous times and saved us numerous times... where's the evidence it's gone wrong?!

C) HOw do you know this isn't a temporary blip...

D) How do you know the coaches weren't given a different schedule and brief by Wilkins as they were by Adams and now Slade... perhaps they're as effected by the change of manager as the players....

Have a few more quesitons I'll remember when I can.
 




Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
I don't think it is a problem with what we have got, but what we are missing. Whether or not one likes Wilkins, I think he brought in a different level of coaching and skills and he has not been directly replaced. He appeared to pay attention to detail and brought in a scientific look upon training/matches/recovery.

I am not advocating issuing White and Booker with P45s, but do think we need to add some quality to the team and plug the hole left by Wilkins' departure.

This 'temporary blip' is now stretching 40+ games.
 


king Wombat

Well-known member
Nov 9, 2003
2,009
wombat world
I don't think it is a problem with what we have got, but what we are missing. Whether or not one likes Wilkins, I think he brought in a different level of coaching and skills and he has not been directly replaced. He appeared to pay attention to detail and brought in a scientific look upon training/matches/recovery.

I am not advocating issuing White and Booker with P45s, but do think we need to add some quality to the team and plug the hole left by Wilkins' departure.

This 'temporary blip' is now stretching 40+ games.

could be wrong, but wilkins was in charge of the youth team most of the time he was here wasn't he?
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
We still havnt got an assistant manager, dean white was a scout bob brooker was working at pease pottage for crying out loud, anyone who cant see its a useless set up is as blind as a bat
 


Acker79

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
2 things:

1) The fact that managers have been sacked, the squad has changed numerous times, yet white and booker have stayed I find... intriguing. Why do they stay when the manager goes? Why do they stay when he player goes? If they are so good that we think we should change everything else, where is their success? Why haven't our former managers made moves to take them? Why is "willing to work with the current set up" such an important attribute when hiring a new manager?

2) Aiii) is a really, really weak argument. Players are sold before knowing if we have someone good enough to replace them, manager's are sacked without knowing if we have someone decent enough to replace them. People in all walks of life get fired without any clear idea from their former companies of who is going to replace them.

Not knowing who we will replace someone with is not an argument for not getting rid of them.


Having said both of them, if Slade is happy with them, I'm not going to get on their backs.
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
I know nothing about our coaching but it rings alarm bells when we don't ever seem to be able to score or even threaten from set pieces and struggle to even clear the 1st man at a corner. Quite shit really.
 




Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
Bob Booker is not a league coach. Evidence, he was was at a non league club.

And a long long way down the non league ladder, and as I said, Dean White is a good scout but he is not an assistant manager or a coach, get in a coach, get in an assistant manager and leave slade to do the motivating e.t.c
 




Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
Bob Booker is not a league coach. Evidence, he was was at a non league club.

Seemingly, he was fine when he was here in his previous spell.

Your quote is not evidence alond, it is circumstantial evidence.

Perhaps there were not any other vacancies around the area and it suited him? Maybe he had offers elsewhere (i.e. Football heavy areas such as the midlands or up North) Wasn't he in a serious relationship and now married to a local girl? Was he able to uproot? Did he want to?
 
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vitusvivi

New member
May 30, 2008
525
Seemingly, he was fine when he was here in his previous spell.

Your quote is not evidence alond, it is circumstantial evidence.

Perhaps there were not any other vacancies around the area and it suited him? Maybe he had offers elsewhere (i.e. Football heavy areas such as the midlands or up North) Wasn't he in a serious relationship and now married to a local girl? Was he able to uproot? Did he want to?

To be honest if i had been at a successful fotoball league club i would no way go to a club as small as he did. Looks like no one else wanted him. You would have thought Lewes or Crawley would have snapped his hand off to come and work for them if he really was that good. You can't really say pay was a factor either because, well, i doubt he was payed anything at pease pottage.
 


SeagullEd

New member
Jan 18, 2008
788
Bob Booker is not a league coach. Evidence, he was was at a non league club.

Booker is a league coach. Evidence, he is at a league club.

Your argument is absolutely ridiculous. It's like saying that DJ Campbell when he was at Birgminham wasn't a league striker because he came from non-league...
 


Smythe

Active member
Oct 8, 2008
1,434
Brightonian in Manchester
I dont know if there good or bad coaches, the only evidence is performances on the pitch which are not too great at the moment but that cant just be blamed on the coaches......the manager and players have to take responsibility too............the thing i find strange is that every manager since Adams buggered off the first time has had to work with the existing coaching team......surely managers want to bring their own people in.....why has the same backroom team had to stay all the time?????? Im not saying it would be any better but id be happier if Slade brought in who he worked with and was successfull wit at Yeovil.......i dont know any other club that keep insisting on the coaches having to stay when they sack a manager.........mayb this was a Dick Knight thing and Bloom wont do this in the future??
 


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