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Triggaaar

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Ended up going cheaper with a jcb( :lol: ) 20v lithium with 2 batteries for £85 from b&q as I just couldn't justify £200 for something that I'll only use maybe 10 times a year.
Very sensible :)
That makita you're looking at does look tasty
It looks like it's one of the better Makitas - I can basically get it for £170 if I just go for 1 3Ah battery. I'm also tempted by that Milwaukee C18PD, which is £220 with 2 batteries - it seems I wrongly assumed it didn't have Lithium batteries, but it does.

£200 for a DIY drill, Jeez :shrug:
:lol: You should look at Festool :D
 




corkster

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good luck to anybody buying Makita, diy or otherwise the chuck will fail and you will have no end of problems.

Milwaukee all the way C18PD or the new Fuel will piss all over anything else in the market place FACT
 


corkster

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Very sensible :)
It looks like it's one of the better Makitas - I can basically get it for £170 if I just go for 1 3Ah battery. I'm also tempted by that Milwaukee C18PD, which is £220 with 2 batteries - it seems I wrongly assumed it didn't have Lithium batteries, but it does.

:lol: You should look at Festool :D

Festool cordless are total crap, overpriced but the woodworking stuff is a different matter
 


nwgull

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Isn't buying a drill - or indeed any power tool - for a man's birthday the equivalent of getting a woman a vacuum cleaner or an iron as a present?
 


jackanada

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Isn't buying a drill - or indeed any power tool - for a man's birthday the equivalent of getting a woman a vacuum cleaner or an iron as a present?

No. Because we would like it, and not get the hump about receiving a gift which made our socially assigned gender roles easier.

And back on topic, if you want to drill a hole in a solid wall SDS drills are the nuts. My Bosch thingummy wotsit 2kg SDSplus has both demolished and built entire houses.
Also buy some decent driver bits - you can go further with a pony driver and some decent bits that you can with pony bits and a decent driver.
 




Triggaaar

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good luck to anybody buying Makita, diy or otherwise the chuck will fail and you will have no end of problems.
I've read of people having the chuck fail after a while, but they sell millions so I've assumed some faults are to be expected.
Milwaukee all the way C18PD
Thanks for the tip.
or the new Fuel will piss all over anything else in the market place FACT
That's a whole other ball game / price bracket.
Isn't buying a drill - or indeed any power tool - for a man's birthday the equivalent of getting a woman a vacuum cleaner or an iron as a present?
No. Because we would like it
Indeed. Me man.
And back on topic, if you want to drill a hole in a solid wall SDS drills are the nuts. My Bosch thingummy wotsit 2kg SDSplus has both demolished and built entire houses.
Likewise, I love my blue Bosch SDS. I have a cheap (£45) 6kg thing for nasty breaking work, and I look after my 2kg Bosch a little better. I'm not actually sure I want an 18v combi, as I'd rarely use the hammer. I could get a drill/driver instead - any of those you'd recommend instead of a Milwaukee C18PD?
 
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upthealbion1970

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Isn't buying a drill - or indeed any power tool - for a man's birthday the equivalent of getting a woman a vacuum cleaner or an iron as a present?

Mrs asked what non Albion pressie I wanted, so I replied a new drill
 


jackanada

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Likewise, I love my blue Bosch SDS. I have a cheap (£45) 6kg thing for nasty breaking work, and I look after my 2kg Bosch a little better. I'm not actually sure I want an 18v combi, as I'd rarely use the hammer. I could get a drill/driver instead - any of those you'd recommend instead of a Milwaukee C18PD?

If you're doing the heavy work with the SDS I'd consider something like this http://www.screwfix.com/p/hitachi-db10dl-10-8v-li-ion-screwdriver/66244 - light and compact so you can get those awkward kitchen fitting bits and no effort to use overhead. You'd want a set of SDSplus auger bits if you're going to put any substantial amount of cable or pipe through joists. Quite like impact drivers for the same purpose but you need a very delicate and quick finger on the trigger for them. Milwaukee do something similar in 12V Li-Ion and Bosch also have a 10.8.
 




Triggaaar

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If you're doing the heavy work with the SDS I'd consider something like this http://www.screwfix.com/p/hitachi-db10dl-10-8v-li-ion-screwdriver/66244 - light and compact so you can get those awkward kitchen fitting bits and no effort to use overhead.
I have a Bosch 10.8 kit for that :) I've had an old 24v green Bosch combi and it's dying on me. I like my 10.8 kit, use it all the time, but sometimes I need a bit more power, so I'm looking to replace my old 24v. My green Bosch was never really good enough in hammer mode, maybe I'd use a decent combi more :shrug: I see the Milwaukee drill driver is the C18DD. A bit shorter and lighter than the C18PD, but not available as cheaply.
You'd want a set of SDSplus auger bits if you're going to put any substantial amount of cable or pipe through joists.
I have sds auger bits, never get on with them - I probably ran them too fast on tough jobs, and I don't have a file (or the know how) to sharpen them. I use some wood beavers for joists, much better for me.
 


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Hi, mrs is buying me a cordless drill for my birthday next month as my old one is knackered to say the least. She's given me £200 as a budget. Will only be used for DIY, so needs to be a hammer drill as well as a driver. Seen a few De Walt on eBay fitting budget but not sure which battery type is best.

Thanks in advance :)

for DIY? £200 will get you a BEAST of a DIY drill from either screwfix or toolstation ..... I am jealous

(Spit hammer drill, Makita multi, Bosch jobbing owner)

I f***ing love power tools
 






nwgull

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Mrs asked what non Albion pressie I wanted, so I replied a new drill

Fairy nuff. Don't get me wrong I love power tools and stuff, but for a purchase such as this I'd not even consult the missis and just use the joint account.
 


upthealbion1970

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Fairy nuff. Don't get me wrong I love power tools and stuff, but for a purchase such as this I'd not even consult the missis and just use the joint account.

Our situation is probably a bit different to most, mrs deals with all the admin stuff and I do all the manual work at home - I'm terrible with money and bills and mrs can't really do any of the manual work as she's got pretty bad ms hence I'm her carer and with her 24/7 :)
 


Triggaaar

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good luck to anybody buying Makita, diy or otherwise the chuck will fail and you will have no end of problems.
Update on this. I've just had a look at these and the chuck in the Milwaukee HD18 PD (the bigger and more powerful of the two Milwaukees) is actually the same chuck as used in the Makita BHP451. So while some Makitas may have poor chucks, presumably not this one.
 




jackanada

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I have a Bosch 10.8 kit for that :) I've had an old 24v green Bosch combi and it's dying on me. I like my 10.8 kit, use it all the time, but sometimes I need a bit more power, so I'm looking to replace my old 24v. My green Bosch was never really good enough in hammer mode, maybe I'd use a decent combi more :shrug: I see the Milwaukee drill driver is the C18DD. A bit shorter and lighter than the C18PD, but not available as cheaply.
I have sds auger bits, never get on with them - I probably ran them too fast on tough jobs, and I don't have a file (or the know how) to sharpen them. I use some wood beavers for joists, much better for me.
Well get a decent combi then, while I cast aspersion on them they are dave useful when you just have a couple of bits to do while up a ladder

You can sharpen an auger bit pretty well with just a regular file, a bit of wood with a groove in to hold it still is v useful though. I'm sure theres summat on youtube.
 


Triggaaar

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Well get a decent combi then, while I cast aspersion on them they are dave useful when you just have a couple of bits to do while up a ladder
And the fact that the equivalent drill drivers are worse/more expensive, I'll follow your advice.

You can sharpen an auger bit pretty well with just a regular file, a bit of wood with a groove in to hold it still is v useful though. I'm sure theres summat on youtube.
Good call on youtube, I'll check it out.
 


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