Oscar Pistorous - What is he due ?

[Uncle Spielberg]

Oscar Pistorous - What is he due ?

On the hunch the guy had a psychotic episode and lost the plot, pumped with steroids and alcohol, what verdict should he get ?

 

[pasty]

Bet it won't be long before the words "diminished responsibility" get wheeled out by the defense

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Bet it won't be long before the words "diminished responsibility" get wheeled out by the defense

I think he had a psychotic episode imo.

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I have gone for 10 years for Manslaughter.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Well he cannot be killed and if found guilty of premeditated murder, he will get life as a mandatory sentence.

I would put him on suicide watch, personally.

 

[screamadelica]

I think he had a psychotic episode imo.

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I have gone for 10 years for Manslaughter.

An eye for an eye,if guilty obviously.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Well he cannot be killed and if found guilty of premeditated murder, he will get life as a mandatory sentence.

I would put him on suicide watch, personally.

I think the guy in the morning when the fog had cleared thought " what the f*** have I done ? " everything points to this. Quite a tragic event.

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I don't buy the intruder in the toilet defence, that seems to me to be very weak.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

If it is a psychotic episode like the guy who jumped off the balcony with his 2 kids in his arms deserve any sort of sympathy ?

 

[KZNSeagull]

I think the guy in the morning when the fog had cleared thought " what the f*** have I done ? " everything points to this. Quite a tragic event.

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I don't buy the intruder in the toilet defence, that seems to me to be very weak.

As he picked her up and carried her downstairs, it did not take long for the fog to clear.

Some things just don't tally:
Is living in fear, has loads of guns in the house, yet leaves his house unlocked at night
Says he shouted at the "intruder" in the bathroom before shooting
Did not notice that Reeva had got out of bed

Very odd.

Murder.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

As he picked her up and carried her downstairs, it did not take long for the fog to clear.

Some things just don't tally:
Is living in fear, has loads of guns in the house, yet leaves his house unlocked at night
Says he shouted at the "intruder" in the bathroom before shooting
Did not notice that Reeva had got out of bed

Very odd.

Murder.

With a bloke that had totally lost the plot at that stage. A difficult one.

 

[KZNSeagull]

With a bloke that had totally lost the plot at that stage. A difficult one.

How do you know he lost the plot?

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

How do you know he lost the plot?

Just a hunch. Not the actions of someone who had not lost the plot I think.

 

[oldalbiongirl]

If it is a psychotic episode like the guy who jumped off the balcony with his 2 kids in his arms deserve any sort of sympathy ?

The only people who deserve sympathy are the families of all involved and the victim. Its unfortunate if its a psychotic incident, but you can always find reasons to give "sympathy" if you look hard enough. I dont agree with hate mobs or people all jumping on media bandwagons in these sort of situations, but he will get the justice that he has to in order to protect the public, punish him for his crime (if in fact he has committed one), and by some way make the victims familiy feel that justice has been served.

 

[cloud]

With a bloke that had totally lost the plot at that stage. A difficult one.

Don't you need an 'allegedly' in there, US?

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

The only people who deserve sympathy are the families of all involved and the victim. Its unfortunate if its a psychotic incident, but you can always find reasons to give "sympathy" if you look hard enough. I dont agree with hate mobs or people all jumping on media bandwagons in these sort of situations, but he will get the justice that he has to in order to protect the public, punish him for his crime (if in fact he has committed one), and by some way make the victims familiy feel that justice has been served.

Quite agreed. Good post.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Just a hunch. Not the actions of someone who had not lost the plot I think.

I think if drugs or alcohol were involved, it would have already been mentioned - he is extremely unlikely to get bail (theoretically), so they would use anything as mitigation I would have thought. Maybe it will be tomorrow.

As for sympathy, I find it very difficult to have sympathy with someone who has guns lying around and thinks that it is normal behaviour.

I feel extremely sorry for Reeva's family as they may never find out what happened and was pleased to see that the media gave them respect at the funeral today.

 

[screamadelica]

Oscar Pistorous - What is he due ?

On the hunch the guy had a psychotic episode and lost the plot, pumped with steroids and alcohol, what verdict should he get ?

Do you have a daughter U S, how would you feel if it was your daughter

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Do you have a daughter U S, how would you feel if it was your daughter

No. I am making no judgement on this other than I think people who have psychotic episodes like I suspect he did need to take everything into account. Tragic all round as I said.

 

[Da Man Clay]

My word. A cracking selection of assumptions US with very little to back it up.

 

[Fungus]

My word. A cracking selection of assumptions US with very little to back it up.

And the other thread has already covered the fact that the death penalty isn't an option.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

My word. A cracking selection of assumptions US with very little to back it up.

Just an opinion and a line of discussion.