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Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
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The arse end of Hangleton
This is spot on, if it wasn't for the uk's generous benefits with almost no questions asked, we wouldn't have so many wanting to migrate to the uk in the first place.

I suggest to attempt to claim some of these so called benefits - it's made up bollocks that benefits are either generous or easily available.
 




Irish_Seagull

New member
Mar 25, 2014
168
ukip, even if they held every single uk seat in Strasbourg would have no authority or power of legislature

All powers in the eu are held by the un elected commission

Farage and his daft party are nothing more than a cruel hoax played on an ignorant public
 


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This is spot on, if it wasn't for the uk's generous benefits with almost no questions asked, we wouldn't have so many wanting to migrate to the uk in the first place. This is the uk governments fault, not the EU. Also the majority of immigrants in the uk are from outside the EU.
For ukip to blame the EU for the current state of affairs flies in the face of raw facts. The uk have screwed up, now ukip blame Europe.

Actually non EU migration is also the fault of the EU. There are hundreds of thousands of people arriving within the EU every year, especially through Southern European countries. In the case of Italy they just decided to hand out travel visas to people a few years ago allowing people to travel where they like. Illegal immigration through Europe is a big problem, but none of our own politicians can see or want to acknowledge that part. UKIP are right the door is open to millions of people from the EU.

http://rt.com/news/eu-travel-european-france/

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/30/world/eu-immigration-infographic/

http://allafrica.com/stories/201404040461.html
 
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cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
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Actually non EU migration is also the fault of the EU. There are hundreds of thousands of people arriving within the EU every year, especially through Southern European countries. In the case of Italy they just decided to hand out travel visas to people a few years ago allowing people to travel where they like. Illegal immigration through Europe is a big problem, but none of our own politicians can see or want to acknowledge that part. UKIP are right the door is open to millions of people from the EU.

http://rt.com/news/eu-travel-european-france/

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/30/world/eu-immigration-infographic/

http://allafrica.com/stories/201404040461.html


Indeed, and it's more complicated, over the last 10 years the UK have naturalised over 2m foreign citizens, a policy the neatly takes off some the excess on immigrants (whether EU and non EU).

Other EU countries are doing the same, in many cases just for money.......

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...fered-chance-to-stay-in-Spain-for-130000.html

http://www.spearswms.com/news/hard-hit-eu-countries-resort-to-selling-passports-to-hnws-4184205

http://www.opp-connect.com/03/04/2014/latvia-doubles-golden-visa-threshold/

http://www.macaudailytimes.com.mo/m...in-portugal-chinese-investors-still-lead.html

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503423&objectid=11245431

http://famagusta-gazette.com/cyprus...-with-passports-for-sale-scheme-p23126-69.htm

Anyone struggling to buy a house in the south of England in particular can reflect on the implications of these policies.........no doubt someone is benefitting somewhere.
 


D

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Indeed, and it's more complicated, over the last 10 years the UK have naturalised over 2m foreign citizens, a policy the neatly takes off some the excess on immigrants (whether EU and non EU).

Other EU countries are doing the same, in many cases just for money.......

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...fered-chance-to-stay-in-Spain-for-130000.html

http://www.spearswms.com/news/hard-hit-eu-countries-resort-to-selling-passports-to-hnws-4184205

http://www.opp-connect.com/03/04/2014/latvia-doubles-golden-visa-threshold/

http://www.macaudailytimes.com.mo/m...in-portugal-chinese-investors-still-lead.html

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503423&objectid=11245431

http://famagusta-gazette.com/cyprus...-with-passports-for-sale-scheme-p23126-69.htm

Anyone struggling to buy a house in the south of England in particular can reflect on the implications of these policies.........no doubt someone is benefitting somewhere.

It's this constant denial from the three main parties on these issues we talk about that gets me, and the way it is made to look like the UK is the only one who has these problems. The truth is every single country in the EU has a problem with migration somwhere, the only difference is when non EU migrants arrive in their countries they are told to move on, pushed away, and especially in the poorer EU countries these migrants can't claim a penny because the governments don't have any money to give away in the first place.

I don't here the people of other European countries being given silly labels either, it is only us who are the nastiest most xenophobic, biggoted, racist country in the whole of the EU, even though we have probably taken the most amount of people and offer the most amount of help. Paying 55 million pounds a day or whatever we pay makes us the bad guys does it.

I thought the EU was meant to be democratic, so why is nobody allowed to have their say anymore as to who we allow in to our country, we just have to accept it because that what makes us good members of the EU. The EU needs to sort it's borders out, they need to sort their finances out, and they need to stop sticking their noses in to other countries business.
 
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