Modern art.....why?

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Kinky Gerbil

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I seem to recall a few years ago a group of five year olds where given some paint and a large piece of paper to paint over, they then got some art expert to look at it and he valued it at something like £5million!
 








Tesco in Disguise

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Badger said:
When I went to the Tate Modern the security bloke had a go at me for sitting on an exhibit, I had foolishly assumed that the large block of concrete was a seat.

I actually quite like this painting and it would go quite nicely in the right living room but I wouldn't fork out more than a couple of hundred quid in Athena for it. Does it have some kind of hidden meaning? Maybe it looks better if you put on some of those 3D glasses

"don't criticise what you can't understand."
 








Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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Alway stuggled with modern art after visiting the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao.

The huge steel sheets were awesome but pictures of children in swimming costumes reaching puberty can be totally mis-interpreted in the wrong hands and a loop video of a Japan girl chanting beggered belief !
 


pasty

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Albert Hitler said:
It is not worth my time trying to educate idiots.

No please try. Please explain to me about 2 basketballs in a fish tank.

Why is it considered art?
Is it just because someone thought of it first?
What is it tyring to represent?
What is it trying to say?
Are you actually the idiot yourself and don't really know, but it's clever to pretend you do?
 




Beach Hut

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There were also some very strange exhibits in the Pompidou centre in Paris this year.

Louvre was OK though
 


keaton

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Kylies Stunt Arse said:

I'm not going to start Atr History course for the uninterested here. All i'll say is that if most open-minded and thoughful people would go to the Tate Modern on a quietish day and sit in a the Rothko room for a bit you'd appreciate his brilliance
 


keaton

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Nov 18, 2004
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pasty said:
No please try. Please explain to me about 2 basketballs in a fish tank.

Why is it considered art?
Is it just because someone thought of it first?
What is it tyring to represent?
What is it trying to say?
Are you actually the idiot yourself and don't really know, but it's clever to pretend you do?


Why does it make you so angry would be the most interesting question?
 




keaton said:
I'm not going to start Atr History course for the uninterested here. All i'll say is that if most open-minded and thoughful people would go to the Tate Modern on a quietish day and sit in a the Rothko room for a bit you'd appreciate his brilliance


No, no, no. That's a bullshit patronising cop-out. You see I am interested. I have been to the Tate Modern on many occasions and have sat within the Rothko room. I really don't "appreciate his brilliance".

I consider myself to be open-minded, thoughtful and reasonably intelligent, so I should be able to understand your explanation.
 


Trufflehound

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keaton said:
All i'll say is that if most open-minded and thoughful people would go to the Tate Modern on a quietish day and sit in a the Rothko room for a bit you'd appreciate his brilliance

Agreed. I have to say I knew little about Rothko (I'm pretty ignorant in the modern art stakes) until I did just that last December.

I was well impressed. I don't know why. I can't explain any deep intellectual hidden meanings behind it all. I just liked it - and that's enough for me.
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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If it gets people discussing it, that's good enough to make it art apparently.
 




keaton said:
I'm not going to start Atr History course for the uninterested here. All i'll say is that if most open-minded and thoughful people would go to the Tate Modern on a quietish day and sit in a the Rothko room for a bit you'd appreciate his brilliance
Bog standard answer
 


tedebear

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keaton said:
I'm not going to start Atr History course for the uninterested here. All i'll say is that if most open-minded and thoughful people would go to the Tate Modern on a quietish day and sit in a the Rothko room for a bit you'd appreciate his brilliance

I think appreciation of art in all forms is very subjective and personal. Thankfully from Rothko's persepctive you see his work as brilliant whereas I don't. I don't appreciate Tracey Emin, nor do I like sharks in tanks. I do however think various other works (some Picasso and Lichtenstein sp?) are "brilliant" however that is MY personal view and not a view of everyone by far.
 


keaton

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cannedheat said:
Bog standard answer

Whereas sneering at Modern Art involves a level of genius few here would understand?
 


Man of Harveys

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Jul 9, 2003
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If one person likes it, likes to look at it, thinks it looks nice, then that's just fine by me, I often like the look of it too. Often these things work well when seen in context: modern art from the late-70s, say, tends to look very much like stuff from the late-70s. Yes, it's nice if you can think there's a bit of craftsmanship (like "proper" painting, say) involved but, as Robert Hughes said more pithily than I can, often, anyone BUT a child could do it; the ideas behind these things can often be complex.
 






pasty

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keaton said:
Why does it make you so angry would be the most interesting question?

It's not necessarily the art that gets my goat. People can like what they want, it is all subjective after all. What does wind me up are comments such as....

"don't criticise what you don't understand"

"If you don't get it, you shouldn't criticise it"

"its not worth my time trying to educate idiots"

"i'm not going to start an art history course fo the uninterested"

Yet when someone genuinely asks for an explanation, those that say they do understand it, and love it, won't (or is it can't) actually explain it. If I was passionate about something that someone didn't understand, I would happily take timeout to explain it to them.
 


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