MK Dons/AFC Wimbledon

[The Laughing Bluebird]

I'm a football fan then a Brighton fan.

But earlier you said you think Milton Keynes fans should be ashamed. Milton Keynes play football, don't they?

 

[Biscuit]

But earlier you said you think Milton Keynes fans should be ashamed. Milton Keynes play football, don't they?

God your desperate.

I don't think I'll bother explaining it to you. Time and time again I have explained what I, and many others, believe about the way modern football works. The fact is, you cannot understand my view, and have have no intention of trying to.

I know it's an old question, but why do you post on a Brighton board? Are the Bluebird sites not intersting enough, or do you feel the need to post on both? Heaven forbid you ONLY post on this forum...

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

But earlier you said you think Milton Keynes fans should be ashamed. Milton Keynes play football, don't they?

yeah biscuit! my only view on the matter is that im hold complete respect for those that have stayed with mk dons. itr must take alot to still support 'your' team despite everything they have gone through.

 

[Biscuit]

yeah biscuit! my only view on the matter is that im hold complete respect for those that have stayed with mk dons. itr must take alot to still support 'your' team despite everything they have gone through.

but the point is they arn't 'your' team anymore. It's like, if Brighton went bust, you could go and get your season ticket at the Emmerites and I could go and support Saltdean United.

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

God your desperate. I don't think I'll bother explaining it to you. Time and time again I have explained what I, and many others, believe about the way modern football works. I know it's an old question, but why do you post on a Brighton board?

I'm desperate? You're pathetic!

You can't explain away your hypocrisy properly, so you resort to the old 'go and post on your own site' routine.

Why do I post on a Brighton site? Because I think this site is the best football message board on the net. And it's a lot of fun.

No problem with that, is there? After all, we're all Fans United, right Biscuit?

 

[Biscuit]

No problem with that, is there? After all, we're all Fans United, right Biscuit?

Originally posted by Biscuit
We know what you think on this matter tho. I'm a football fan then a Brighton fan.

You really have a problem with the fact I went to Wrexham don't you?

It's the fact I have to explain the same thing over and over to you, that I asked you that 'old' question. it's rather annoying isn't it? - saying the same thing over and over. I guess so, coz you really threw your toys out the pram.

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

You really have a problem with the fact I went to Wrexham don't you?

Of course not! You are free to do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it. But by going to Wrexham (on a day that your own club was playing at home) you should realise that you haven't suddenly become some sort of a superfan who can judge what other fans around the country should and should not do.

My personal view is that Fans United days are essentially a waste of time because history shows that they achieve next to nothing in realistic terms. However, they obviously do no harm either, and if such events make the fans of the struggling clubs feel better about things then I suppose they do serve a purpose of sorts. But what gets on my tits is when the people who have attended these things start adopting an attitude that they are somehow morally superior to other fans and that their opinions are therefore more relevant. And that's just what you've been doing of late.

 

[fatboy]

Fatboy, would you really not mind if the Albion were shifted to Ashford? [/B]

I was just trying to get a reaction and liven up the thread.

I approve of what AFCW have done and have been to several of their games, including the first ever game at Gander Green Lane, and the Wimbledon fans united game against Nottingham Forest.

There is no place for franchising in football.

 

[Biscuit]

you should realise that you haven't suddenly become some sort of a superfan who can judge what other fans around the country should and should not do.

Shit, have I not? Bloody hell... I'll want all my train fair and other travelling costs back then. That really is unbelievable.

But what gets on my tits is when the people who have attended these things start adopting an attitude that they are somehow morally superior to other fans and that their opinions are therefore more relevant. And that's just what you've been doing of late.

Have I? I thought I was just arguing my opinion! You would have disagreed with me wether I had gone to Wrexham or not! The point is, you disagree with me, and you think you can some how prove me wrong by suggesting I think I'm 'morally superior'.

I am simply voicing my opinions for heaven sake! I really have no idea where you got that from. Though I would be interested to see if anyone agrees with you.

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

The point is, you disagree with me, and you think you can some how prove me wrong by suggesting I think I'm 'morally superior'. I really have no idea where you got that from.

Maybe the following posts from last week will ring some bells:

"You have no idea what Wrexham is going through. We've had first hand experience."

"Not only did we go up to the game, which they were very grateful for, we also sold shirts, shaked (sic) buckets and raised money for them. You have no f***ing idea what you are talking about."

Biscuit, Fans Utd and Brighton & Hove Albion.

 

[Fran Hagarty]

Unfortunately, I think there are many fans who don't realise and don't care what happens to clubs other than the one they (claim to) support. A prime example would be those who don't support their local club but latch onto a team purely because it's fashionable/successful, even though they may never go to watch them play - hence the large numbers who "support" teams such as Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal etc. Many of these fans would not appreciate the passion that surrounds supporting a local team because they have no such links with their chosen team. and it's location is of no consequence to them.

I can understand fans from the Wimbledon area being angry and upset at their club being relocated in another area. For some it wouldn't have been practical to to travel to Milton Keynes and, for most it was, doubtless, a decision of principle to support AFC Wimbledon instead and I would concur with their stance.

I assume that TLB is a local of Cardiff and wonder how he would feel if Sam Hammam decided to relocate to an area some distance away?

I agree with Biscuit's view because, as a football fan, I think we should care about other clubs when they are in danger of folding. If Fans United achieve little else (and I think they do have an effect) at least it is gratifying tthat for the fans of the club concerned, there are people out there who care about football as a whole and not just their own club.

I suspect that the recent statement made by the Chairman of Newcastle about the Premiership clubs not caring about the clubs in the lower leagues - which probably includes the Championship -typifies the attitude of many Premiership fans and more beside. Smug in their complacency, they should remember the saying: "There by the grace of God go I"

 

[Mr Fridge]

I remember the MK Franchise site saying that Wrexham going into admin would be good for them as they will be dedcuted 10 points.

Well they have, and they have been and they are still above MK franchise in the league.

Wrexham currently 6 points adrift of sfety in League 1 good luck too them.

I don't wish the same for the franchised team.

 

[The Laughing Bluebird]

Fran: I think you are misinterpreting what I was saying. My view is that what happened at the 'old' Wimbledon was a disgrace, and the Football League should never have allowed the owners of the club to relocate it to Milton Keynes.

However, that said, I don't think fans of other clubs have the right to criticise fans of the 'old' Wimbledon over which club they now choose to support, whether it be AFC Wimbledon or Milton Keynes. Surely such a choice is up to the individual?

 

[Fran Hagarty]

However, that said, I don't think fans of other clubs have the right to criticise fans of the 'old' Wimbledon over which club they now choose to support, whether it be AFC Wimbledon or Milton Keynes. Surely such a choice is up to the individual?

You're right in that respect - it is, of course, up to the individual to decide what is right for him/her. I think it's because people like Biscuit feel so strongly about franchising and what is happening to clubs like Wrexham that they come across as so opinionated.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

It is entirely up to the individual whether he or she chooses to support the newly-formed non-league club or the new club in Milton Keynes that took their old club's place in the Football League.

That'll be the thousands of AFC Wimbledon fans who watch their team every week or the couple of dozen "Wimbledon" supporters who went to Rotherham last season only to find themselves outnumbered by the stewards?

Yep, I guess it's "entirely up to the individual".

 

[Withdean and I]

afc anyday...fcuk mk dons

 

[dougdeep]

Who plays nearest to Merton? nuff said.

 

[cheshunt seagull]

AFC for me, although it's tragic that their fans were put in a position of having to make such a choice. There is a similar situation in my neck of the woods with Enfield Town and Enfield FC.

 

[West Hoathly Seagull]

My personal view is that Fans United days are essentially a waste of time because history shows that they achieve next to nothing in realistic terms.

I think you'll find the original Fans United day was critical in getting the Albion's fate known to the wider football world, and it was suggested by a Plymouth Argyle fan, not an Albion fan. Only after that would the FA take any notice and Dick Knight was able to negotiate a takeover of the club. Without the Fans United day, the Albion may well no longer exist. It also got fans of Premiership clubs to realise that there were clubs other than their own and large numbers turned up at the Goldstone that day. A Chelsea fan led the singing in the North Stand for part of the game. So don't knock the power of fans getting together. This, "only care about my own club" attitude can kick you in the face when the boot is on the other foot.

 

[dougdeep]

What if we draw M.K.Dons in the cup, would you go? I wouldn't.