Micky Adams - Great guy or fall guy?

[Mohammed Al Fayed]

At Fulham he is considered a legend and won our first crucial promotion after c15 years of struggle. The next season he was sacked after a slow start, somewhat controversiouly.

Hes also had success at Brighton and Brentford, though struggled at Leicester and Port Vale. I thought he would achieve a lot more in the game.

What do you guys think?

 

[guster]

Struggled at Port Vale, are you sure?

 

[deakers]

At Fulham he is considered a legend and won our first crucial promotion after c15 years of struggle. The next season he was sacked after a slow start, somewhat controversiouly.

Yes, it was you who sacked him!

 

[guster]

At Fulham he is considered a legend and won our first crucial promotion after c15 years of struggle. The next season he was sacked after a slow start, somewhat controversiouly.

Yes, it was you who sacked him!

lol

 

[Mohammed Al Fayed]

Struggled at Port Vale, are you sure?

lol...should read Sheffield United! But you didnt give your opinion?

 

[guster]

I like the guy, i'll always appreciate the good work he did with the Albion. Ok his second act didnt go as planned, but they rarely do for returning managers.

He's had a couple of spells in charge in the top 2 divisions and it really hasnt worked out which you have to come to the conclusion that he is better suited to L1 + L2.

I wish him luck with Port Vale, they should be pushing for a play off place.

 

[sammy g]

I think as a manager he failed to adapt to the way the game has changed since his earlier managerial appointments.
When he managed Fulham, us (the first time) and then Leicester he had a style, approach to the game which worked. Today however, I think he has been found out and he doesn't have tactical brain to adapt to the modern game as evidenced by the car-crash which was his time with Sheffield Utd.
Now he is back in the lower league he may be able to have some success, but I don't think he has what it takes to drive Port-Vale beyond league 1.

 

[Seagull on the wing]

Ace guy for many reasons apart from what he did in his first tenure at Albion,when he was at Leicester he turned up on one of our protest marches at the Labour party conference when Leicester had a game the next day,sadly did'nt make it second time but I wish him well.

 

[catfish]

I'll always love the guy for what he did in his first spell with us but second time around he did lose the plot and filled the team with journeyman loan signings. His sacking was unfortunately inevitable.

 

[Icy Gull]

1st spell, with a budget and players he knew and had done it for him before plus the magic of Zamora he was magnificent. 2nd spell produced the most clueless and depressing football I have ever seen from a Brighton side, including Gillingham, where at least there was the excuse of being the worst/2nd worst team in the football league. Dont be fooled by two decent results in his second spell - Man City and Leicester were blips in an otherwise would rather put my head in the oven experience.

 

[JBizzle]

Micky will always be an absolute legend in my eyes but he has really not changed with the modern game. Compare his style of play with even that of Russel Slade and it look archaic.

For me, there were two instances when I know Micky was not going to make it at the Albion: firstly, dropping ball-playing younster Joel Lynch and replacing him with clogging, hoofing journeyman Colin Hawkins; and secondly, saying that the players needed a cuddle when Micky mk 1 would have ripped them apart.

Put simply, he masn'y really moved with the times and isn't a modern day manager but he IS an Albion legend.

 

[BUTTERBALL]

Micky will always be an absolute legend in my eyes but he has really not changed with the modern game. Compare his style of play with even that of Russel Slade and it look archaic.

For me, there were two instances when I know Micky was not going to make it at the Albion: firstly, dropping ball-playing younster Joel Lynch and replacing him with clogging, hoofing journeyman Colin Hawkins; and secondly, saying that the players needed a cuddle when Micky mk 1 would have ripped them apart.

Put simply, he masn'y really moved with the times and isn't a modern day manager but he IS an Albion legend.

Good post. I think he will do well at Vale this season. They have done very well pre-season and Doug Loft said he has brought back some much needed discipline. Perhaps the bad experiences of the last few years have brought out the mk1 Micky again?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

A legend for us in the first spell, he had time to shape his squad and was under no pressure to deliver promotion and exceeded all our expectations, he also had the feel good factor the club experienced when it finally returned to Brighton, fans were just glad we were back and didn't really care where we finished as long as we weren't relegated.

Second spell there was an air of spectation and he was under pressure to deliver straight away, especially given the circumstances in which he got the job. Dean Wilkins took us to 7th in the table and was sacked without a definitive explanation from the clubs board as to why, Adams was then brought in and those who felt Wilkins was hard done by vented their anger at Adams when things didn't start too well adding to this pressure. As Adams said about some of the fans criticism, he didn't realise we had to be top by October.

A couple of injuries to key players may have led to our poor start and once some fans turned on him he was almost fighting a losing battle from there on. He wasn't afford the time he had in his first spell to be able to shape his squad and get them to adapt to his style of play.

I think it is when he is put under pressure (sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly) which is when he struggles as a manager and maybe why he failed at Leicester, Sheff Utd and us the 2nd time around and has been more successful at clubs like Port Vale or his 1st spell here when the expectation to get promotion / fight their way out of a relegation battle just isn't there.

Was there any expectation on him to deliver promotion at Fulham when he was there?

 

[Silent Bob]

He is clearly a very old school manager, who likes hardworking physical teams. That can still work at any level (eg Stoke) but I don't think his training methods or way of handling players is too up to date and that's a problem.

He brought respectability back to this club, things were picking up slowly but when he came in it changed - but he had some luck as well. Quite a few players he'd had before from Fulham and Brentford were available (and good enough - unlike the second time round) and we got hugely lucky finding Zamora.

In hindsight it's easy to see why he hasn't had great success, even if it didn't seem that way when he left first time.

 

[Hotchilidog]

I shan't let his miserable second spell sully the great memories of his first. He should always be remembered fondly by Albion fans for getting the golden years underway with that first championship.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Micky Adams as said before is a legend-came to us and was exactly the type we needed at the time.......upset my Mother(now departed) in releasing Ross Johnson so much so,that i don't think she ever liked him,but he did clear the way for what we achieved back then.

Micky stands in 3rd place as my favourite Brighton manager.