Matterhorn.

[pb21]

Is the OP the same person who bought a very expensive road bike and then rode it 15 miles in 1 hour 45?

If so you can get away spending a lot of money on a bike and not riding it 'properly' because you don't have the experience; I'm not so sure you can get away climbing a big ****ing mountain like this though!

 

[Ceej]

This must be a wind up, surely

 

[AZ Gull]

I've seen the Matterhorn from a number of different places around the Alps over the last 30 years and it is an incredibly impressive sight.

I have seen a number of your threads and posts around NSC in the last couple of months and you are an incredibly stupid person.

I would suggest the two shouldn't and won't come together anytime soon.

 

[Tony Towner's Fridge]

Doesn't it have two peaks? I am sure I saw a Monty Python programme years ago where it had two?

musht be mishtaken?

TNBA

TTF

 

[Goldstone1976]

Doesn't it have two peaks? I am sure I saw a Monty Python programme years ago where it had two?

musht be mishtaken?

TNBA

TTF

I don't remember the Python sketch, but I did see a series by David Lynch that must have been about the Matterhorns.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Managed to conquer the Eiger 10 days ago......strenuous and expensive but worth it for the views......

who would expect a train to go through and up a mountain?

I went to Everest base camp about 8 years ago - marvellous experience - but while there i read a book by Sherpa Tensing's son about the horrible day when loads of people died near the summit.

But the one thing which really struck me about it was his and the local sherpa (Buddhist?) attitude that you don't "conquer" Everest. It is more that Everest works with you and allows you to climb it.

Let's face it, at that altitude, nature could throw up all sorts of things to swat you down.

I got to the top of the klein matterhorn a few years ago with my family, but that was train and cable-cars all the way. Stunning views at the top. And there were people skiing at the top in early August.

 

[maltaseagull]

I'm going to Boulders in Brighton next Tuesday. I know climbing plastic isn't the same as rock but I need to know what ropes are what and how to use carabiners. Crampons are straight forward.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/06/two-missing-british-climbers-found-dead-on-matterhorn/

 

[sully]

I have 32 years of climbing experience. Bouldering has nothing to do with mountaineering and doesn't involve ropes so this won't be of any use.

The easiest route up the Matterhorn is not difficult climbing wise (like most mountaineering) but it's exposed, on loose rock and is very sustained so fitness and being quick over tricky terrain is important.

To attempt this having done nothing similar before, although totally possible, would be pretty stupid. Better to get a load of mileage in first in Snowdonia, Lakes etc Not just walking but scrambling & climbing as the Matterhorn is basically quite difficult scrambling for around 1300m.

Without the experience, the likelihood that you would shit yourself at an inopportune moment and either endanger yourself and the rest of your party (or just waste your money by having to be escorted back down) would be quite high.

Also worth bearing in mind that lots of experienced climbers die in the Alps due to circumstances completely out of their control. Weather, rockfall, avalanches are indiscriminate. Paying £3k doesn't guarantee success or lack of death.

Very much this.

I've climbed the Matterhorn, but got caught in rock fall on the way down the Hornli ridge and broke my arm. Great helicopter ride, though!

We always say we take all the rescue gear with us into the mountains to help those stupid enough to think it's easy.

Oh, and if you fancy being taken up the Hornli ridge by a guide like a dog on a lead, then more fool you. Nobody I saw doing it that way seemed to be enjoying it.

This is the summit.

 

[Goldstone1976]

Very much this.

I've climbed the Matterhorn, but got caught in rock fall on the way down the Hornli ridge and broke my arm. Great helicopter ride, though!

We always say we take all the rescue gear with us into the mountains to help those stupid enough to think it's easy.

Oh, and if you fancy being taken up the Hornli ridge by a guide like a dog on a lead, then more fool you. Nobody I saw doing it that way seemed to be enjoying it.

This is the summit.

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Fantastic pics! Congrats on getting up.

You'll be able to answer a question I've often wondered about: do you have to pay for/contribute to the cost of the helicopter, or is it foc to those that need it?

 

[nickbrighton]

I'm going to Boulders in Brighton next Tuesday. I know climbing plastic isn't the same as rock but I need to know what ropes are what and how to use carabiners. Crampons are straight forward.

crampons are not straight forward, any more than any specialist equipment is. Just because they look like you just strap some spikes onto your boot doesnt make it so. You need to know how to walk and climb in them, how to use them should you slip, you can get some serious injusries from having a set of crampons rip yourcalf muscles apart as you slide with ever increasing speed down towards the cliff !, if you have crampons then you probably need an ice axe, again you need to know how to use one properly. I'm not sure this is a wind up or not but on the off chance it isnt please dont do this untill you know what you are doing, also on a side note, make sure you are insured, you will be asked for insurance BEFORE the nice men in the helicopter will fly you off the mountain

 

[nickbrighton]

Fantastic pics! Congrats on getting up.

You'll be able to answer a question I've often wondered about: do you have to pay for/contribute to the cost of the helicopter, or is it foc to those that need it?

its not like the UK where the RAF or Mountain rescue come and get you and give you a nice cuppa tea, you need to provide insurance details before they fly you off, its VERY expensive if you arent insured properly.

 

[sully]

Fantastic pics! Congrats on getting up.

You'll be able to answer a question I've often wondered about: do you have to pay for/contribute to the cost of the helicopter, or is it foc to those that need it?

In Switzerland, you pay. It didn't take off until they'd seen my insurance!

 

[Goldstone1976]

its not like the UK where the RAF or Mountain rescue come and get you and give you a nice cuppa tea, you need to provide insurance details before they fly you off, its VERY expensive if you arent insured properly.

Thanks. Guessed that might be the answer.

I can imagine the insurance company's quote for a total novice:

Q How much mountaineering experience do you have?
A None

Ok - well the cost of the helicopter is £10k. We need to be profitable as a business - how does a premium of £11k sound?

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

I did a bit of rock climbing at school back in the 70's - hated it.

But I do remember:
Taking in.
That's me
Climb when you're ready.
Climbing
Okay

As the essential communication between the climber and the rope holder.

Preferred canoeing .....

 

[Boy Blue]

Is the OP the same person who bought a very expensive road bike and then rode it 15 miles in 1 hour 45?

If so you can get away spending a lot of money on a bike and not riding it 'properly' because you don't have the experience; I'm not so sure you can get away climbing a big ****ing mountain like this though!

You try doing loops with hills to climb like the Steyning bostel or cycle through poynings and up to devis dyke. I know you probably class speed humps as hills but they really aren't.

 

[Boy Blue]

This must be a wind up, surely

Nope. Definitely going and will climb it solo if need be. Once the fixed ropes are in place then I'll just clip on and go and follow who's in front. There's no overhangs or that like, bit of scrambling but that's about it and don't need a permit to climb.

 

[pb21]

You try doing loops with hills to climb like the Steyning bostel or cycle through poynings and up to devis dyke. I know you probably class speed humps as hills but they really aren't.

Hmmm, it seems like you are the one who is under estimating hills, either that or, as others have pointed out, you must be on a wind up!

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Doesn't it have two peaks? I am sure I saw a Monty Python programme years ago where it had two?

musht be mishtaken?

TNBA

TTF

That was Monty Python - hope the link works.

 

[The Clamp]

This "Pay to summit" is what caused so many deaths on Everest in the 90's. Thankfully these tour companies realised it was a total disaster and stopped the practice by and large but not before over 120 had died.


Since 1865 the Matterhorn has claimed the lives of over 600 men. It is officially the most dangerous mountain on the planet and this is mostly down to a combination of avalanches, rockfalls and inexperienced "climbers". Most die by either falling rocks stoving their heads in or freeze to death in the sudden windchills, common on the mountain.

I think you may be joking about just paying 3k and turning up with zero experience. If you do, you will likely die and endangerthe lives of dozens of others along with it. Hugely disrepectful of both mountain climbing and human life.

 

[Birdie Boy]

Thanks. Guessed that might be the answer.

I can imagine the insurance company's quote for a total novice:

Q How much mountaineering experience do you have?
A None

Ok - well the cost of the helicopter is £10k. We need to be profitable as a business - how does a premium of £11k sound?

Last I heard was at least 5 years ago and the helicopter was £80 per minute which starts when they leave base, not when they pick you up. Hence the reason they ask for proof of insurance before taking you down.

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