Martin Samuel - spot on again today.

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Easy 10

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Mr Samuel, as usual, right on the money again in todays Times...

"HERE we go now, just breathe in and slip the chains, getting looser now, locate the key, stay calm, couldn’t be simpler, they’ll lap this up, almost out now, one, two three and . . . a laundry ticket? Oh, for God’s sake, this isn’t the right jacket. I must have picked up the other one back at the — water? Is that water? Rushing water? Dear mother of — and that is how it ends. For Sven-Göran Eriksson: for this Government, too.
Last weekend, two great Houdini acts went plummeting over the falls together, still locked in the trunk. There comes a time when even the best-honed routines cease to work, when the light on magic is so illuminating that the whole process is revealed. That is where we are now. David Blunkett, the Home Secretary, made a trademark populist decision over David Westwood, chief of Humberside Police, and had it explode in his face.



Sven trotted out the same platitudes, the well-worn self-serving inanities to explain the collapse of another tournament campaign, except this time the country weighed up the evidence and took issue.

Of course, the two cannot be equated in real terms. When the Government gets it wrong, people die. When the coach of England’s football team fails, people get a bit fed up. The principle is the same, though.A few years ago, Blunkett would have got away with his posturing, just as Eriksson emerged unscathed from an equally abject World Cup performance in 2002. Not now, though. The war in Iraq did for Labour what 97 minutes of hit and hope against Portugal did for Sven. In both cases, the public felt uncomfortable watching missiles launched from long range. Things will never be the same again.

There are still a few deluded idiots who blame the referee and lawn maintenance for England’s exit but, for the rational majority, Euro 2004 has been a revelation. The head coach doesn’t coach; the manager doesn’t manage. Worse than that, he does not concede that there is anything wrong.

This arrogance is dangerous, whether in Westminster or the Stadium of Light. Once a leader cannot countenance the possibility that there is another way, it is time to go. Except in Eriksson’s case. We are stuck with him for two more years at least, longer than we may be stuck with this Government or this Prime Minister. There is no point in calling on Eriksson to quit, because he won’t. The FA could not afford to sack him, either, and does not want to, because it sees the loyalty of the players as sacrosanct and Eriksson certainly has that. The most that can be hoped for is that the debunking of the Eriksson myth produces change: a more adventurous game plan, better use of the players at his disposal.

Eriksson is no longer seen as the solution but part of the problem and that can only be healthy. He had the right XI in Portugal — credit there — but no imagination in the way he used them. It is pointless selecting Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard if the coach is then so paranoid about being caught defensively that he deploys them on the edge of the penalty area. Fitness assessments are also redundant unless a manager heeds the results.

Eriksson made similar mistakes in 2002. He did not coach his England team when it needed guidance, nor did he adequately manage the situation that had arisen with David Beckham, his captain. The difference is that now he is being called to account — about time, too.

Now that Eriksson’s parachute is revealed to be a knapsack, a graceful landing can hardly be expected."
 




Icy Gull

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You're like a dog with a bone Easy :lol:
 


Jambo Seagull

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Martin Samuel is the best football writer around imho. The only time I haven't agreed with him was when he tipped England to win Euro 2004. He has for a long time seen Eriksson for what he is: The Emperors new clothes.
 


Brovion

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As someone who has taken issue with the 'Sven Out!' brigade on here it may surprise you to know I actually agree with nearly all of that. However underlying it AGAIN is the assumption if only we changed the manager everything would be ok. "We're England we've got the best players, the foreigners should all have been thrashed, the Premiership is the best League in the World, we invented the game we should be the best etc etc etc".

He's right though, Eriksson DID screw up, but it's no good blaming one individual be that the referee, an individual player, the lawn maintenance guy - or the manager. Expect to see the same thing written again in six eight, ten years time only with Curbishley, Maclaren or Adams in the Sven role.

*Yawn* Seen it all before, read it all before. Ramsey out! Revie out! Greenwood out! Robson out! Taylor out! Hoddle out! Keegan out! Ericsson out! <insert name here> out! Wake me up when you realise the fault lies mainly with the players and the way they're bought up in this country.
 


Lammy

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How can playing Scholes, an unfit Beckham and Phil Neville be the players fault?
 




Brovion

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Lammy said:
How can playing Scholes, an unfit Beckham and Phil Neville be the players fault?
Because they're not the best in the world but they are good by English standards? Anyway you miss the point, we've been playing competitive football for over fifty years and in that time we've reached ONE final. The reason for our continued failure isn't bad luck or bad management (although they have played a part and Ericsson is no genius) but simply because we're not good enough. Why? That should be the question that is being asked, instead all people want to talk about is whether he should have taken Player X off before Player Y or whether Player A would have been a (slightly) better bet than Player B.

Take your heads out of the sand, Samuel himself isn't immune as he thought England would win! Obviously he's been proved wrong so he wants to blame somebody, and to continue the David Blunkett analogy he used it's easier to put the blame on an individual rather than overhaul the system.
 


Gwylan

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Brovian said:
Because they're not the best in the world but they are good by English standards? Anyway you miss the point, we've been playing competitive football for over fifty years and in that time we've reached ONE final. The reason for our continued failure isn't bad luck or bad management (although they have played a part and Ericsson is no genius) but simply because we're not good enough. Why? That should be the question that is being asked, instead all people want to talk about is whether he should have taken Player X off before Player Y or whether Player A would have been a (slightly) better bet than Player B.

Take your heads out of the sand, Samuel himself isn't immune as he thought England would win! Obviously he's been proved wrong so he wants to blame somebody, and to continue the David Blunkett analogy he used it's easier to put the blame on an individual rather than overhaul the system.

:clap2: :clap2:

Spot on Brovian. I've pointed this out in other threads but not many people want to acknowledge that we're not very good. Our record in international tournament is piss-poor although, under Ericsson, it has improved slightly. But it's easier to lash out and blame someone instead of asking why we're so consistently poor.
 


Icy Gull

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'Tis true all great English club sides (and those have had great success in Europe) of the past all had Scottish/Irish/Welsh players that made the difference. Liverpool with Rush/Daglish and Hansen being the best example. Nowdays they are all foreign.

Apart from the 1966 team has there ever been a truely great English team (including clubs)? I can't think of one, so why should the national team be special?
 






Easy 10

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Icy Gull said:
You're like a dog with a bone Easy :lol:
I know, I know.
Its just that we would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for that pesky manager.

:angry:
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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Ok, so Beckham was crap vs. Portugal. Would Kieron Dyer or Joe Cole have made any difference? I don't think so...

My beef with Sven is that he ruined 2 years of England friendlies so that he could look at 40-odd players, yet when the tournament came around he keeps the same 11 and uses his bench sparingly.

Surely he should have groomed 3 or 4 of the best attacking players to do a job for us, playing them with the 1st XI, rather than changing the whole team at half-time. What purpose did that serve?
 


Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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I have to say on the 07:00 hrs Brighton - London train that was a quality article this morning.
 


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