Many times on here we have had debates on cyclists and cars etc.

[London Calling]

Many times on here we have had debates on cyclists and cars etc.

In our local rag..Hackney Gazette reports

1. Cyclist killed by lorry, whilst in a cycle Lane
2. Man put into a coma by 3 thugs after they knock him on his bike whilst in a cycle lane, threatened him for money for the damage to their car and then kicked the **** out of him.

I don't condone the cycling on pavements but to the anti-cyclists out there, whilst these are extreme examples, on a lesser scale other incidents happen an awful lot unless you have you're wits about you!

LC

 

[Napper]

cyclists revenge . .. have no fear about kicking off wing mirrors if a car cuts me up dangerously.

 

[Uncle C]

Keep the traffic on the roads. Cyclists are lucky to have special lanes in some places

Pedestrians sometimes get killed on pavements. If you take your argument to a logical conclusion, they should find somewhere safer. Perhaps walking through peoples gardens.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Cyclists rule. Those feckers that wander along aimlessly in the cycle lanes on the seafrront - cooing at the lovely view and how warm its - "Get out of the f*cking cycle lane"!!

 

[bhaexpress]

Sure, especially if you're a pedestrian walking on a London street or one who has the temerity to observe traffic lights at pedestrian crossing.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

In my experience it's not car drivers, or cyclists or pedestrians that are the problem, it's all of them.
These problems all seem to occur where one group decides that the rules of the road don't aply to them, so you get cyclists going the wrong way up one way streets, pedestrians crossing against red lights and drivers in cycle lanes.
It needs people to recognise that althought the rules may inconvenience them at certain times, they are there for the benefit of everyone and that sometimes that means you are not the highest up the pecking order.

 

[bhaexpress]

In my experience it's not car drivers, or cyclists or pedestrians that are the problem, it's all of them.
These problems all seem to occur where one group decides that the rules of the road don't aply to them, so you get cyclists going the wrong way up one way streets, pedestrians crossing against red lights and drivers in cycle lanes.
It needs people to recognise that althought the rules may inconvenience them at certain times, they are there for the benefit of everyone and that sometimes that means you are not the highest up the pecking order.

Yes, good point well made.

 

[REDLAND]

Cyclists rule. Those feckers that wander along aimlessly in the cycle lanes on the seafrront - cooing at the lovely view and how warm its - "Get out of the f*cking cycle lane"!!

amen to that

 

[See-Goals]

I do a combination of driving and cycling to work to avoid the heavy parking fees. I don't have a problem with either side of the argument, however I do find it astonishing when cyclists get the hump at motorists as they cycle in the road when there is a purpose built cycle lane running the length of Brighton/Hove seafront.

 

[Meade's Ball]

I do hate the most of people. Cyclists, peds and motorists purely think of themselves and plan to get to their B as fast as they can. When i wait at the red light on my bike others pass me and move in front past the licit lines. If it's safer for them to remain where they are, they wait until green allows and then trundle ahead. Motococks go in the safe unengined cyclists box as they feel its alright for them to accelerate more importantly than others. Cars refuse to flash signs so i know where they'll be.
People don't matter as a group. I often think of stopping cyclists who pass me to break the law and continue their personal route and ask them where they're going. If its not the hospital or the law-courts or a GP they've heard is treating their wife/husband with a mallard or mallet, then they're just constant selfish ****s.

 

[London Calling]

In my experience it's not car drivers, or cyclists or pedestrians that are the problem, it's all of them.
These problems all seem to occur where one group decides that the rules of the road don't aply to them, so you get cyclists going the wrong way up one way streets, pedestrians crossing against red lights and drivers in cycle lanes.
It needs people to recognise that althought the rules may inconvenience them at certain times, they are there for the benefit of everyone and that sometimes that means you are not the highest up the pecking order.

Don't disagree with that. Respect is needed! For all road users.

 

[Skint Gull]

In my experience it's not car drivers, or cyclists or pedestrians that are the problem, it's all of them.
These problems all seem to occur where one group decides that the rules of the road don't aply to them, so you get cyclists going the wrong way up one way streets, pedestrians crossing against red lights and drivers in cycle lanes.
It needs people to recognise that althought the rules may inconvenience them at certain times, they are there for the benefit of everyone and that sometimes that means you are not the highest up the pecking order.

The best post i've read for ages! I am the most short tempered driver around and will always be shouting at my windscreen because of pedestrians, cyclists and other cars, not despising one group any more than another.

As you point out, if everyone just thought about everybody around them when they are near roads and cycle paths we could all get along!

 

[Brixtaan]

I'm a cyclist, the rules don't apply to me so f*** off.



ps to prove my point, articles in todays papers about how there are thousands more traffic lights than there were a few years ago.They were put there for cars to calm the oppressive traffic, NOT TO STOP CYCLISTS.

 

[London Calling]

11,257 adult cyclists were injured and 109 killed on the UK’s roads in 2004, the latest year for which figures are available. However, for each bicycle accident officially recorded there are as many as 14 more which do not go on police records, and so the number injured is certainly an under-estimate. Being struck by an overtaking car is arguably the most dangerous form of collision for a cyclist, with a particularly high mortality rate.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

I'm a cyclist with experience of being under the front of cars that have simply not seen me (6' tall, built like both of the current England second row, fluoro jacket and bag, lights, etc....how the f*** can you MISS me!). But I am also a professional driver who has almost had a couple of cyclists under my wheels because of their inability to show any form of road sense. I have explained the error of their ways to a couple of them who simply don't understand that lights mean stop, road markings are there for everyone, and they need to look around a little bit before undertaking any kind of manoeuvre. Then again, the times that I have been knocked off have been from cars pulling out from junctions and not seeing me because of poor car design (the driver side front windscreen strut blocks many drivers' views). Cyclists need to accept that the roads are there to be shared, drivers need to be more tolerant and need to realise that cycle routes are not "undertaking lines", and that parking in a cycle route is not the way to keep your shiny car in pristine condition!

Compulsory insurance for cyclists would be a good move, as would a recognised training course before letting them on the road.

And whilst we are there, bloody disabled carriages and horses. Disabled carriages are the devil's transport - no insurance, no road sense. Scum. Why are horses allowed to shit on the pavements, but when a dog does it you can be fined?

 

[ade28uk]

Im a cyclist too. The biggest thing that pisses me off is when cyclists do not obey the Highway Code. I have now seen on three occasions where a cyclist has been in front of me and crossed the red lights. One time a pedestrian nearly got knocked over and the cyclist gave him a dirty look.

I follow the Highway code so therefore If something happens it is not my fault.

However as well as cyclists not following the highway code, cars should also learn to look out for cyclists. So many times I see cars sticking out at Junctions which forces me to go around them. So many times I have seen people on mobile phones at junctions which is dangerous. Secondly car drivers turning in to roads and cutting you off becuase they dont indicate early or they misjudge your speed.

Finally pedestrians. Again they need to judge a cyclists speed when using Islands in the road. On two or three occasions I have had pedestrians walk out in front of me.

Where all at fault.

 

[desprateseagull]

as a cyclist and a driver, i can see both sides of the road as it were..

general consideration for other road users, on each side, seems to have gone out the window-

drivers- WAY too close when passing bikes, turning corners without checking who/what is on your inside, or pulling out suddenly. you may be nice and comfy in that hard shell of a car, though bikers dont have that luxury, or speeed.

riders - not giving notice that you are changing directions (hand signals, that is - and i dont mean the 'bird'!).

also, in respect of traffic lights- just riding straight through as if they dont exist.. they are put there for a reason (to keep confliction flows of traffic apart..)

AND, my biggest angst of all- riding at night with no lights, reflectors, or any reason for people to see you, until its too late.

can't we all just get along..? show some consideration out there.. cos in 50 years time, there won't be any cars, and bikes will rule the world..

but util then, get out of my way!

 

[Lush]

In a crowded country, getting from A to B is almost always going to be a stressful experience, no matter how you travel.

These days it's possible to get stroppy when other people are walking slower than you round the shops in Churchill Square!!!!

 

[Kylies Stunt Arse]

In a crowded country, getting from A to B is almost always going to be a stressful experience, no matter how you travel.

These days it's possible to get stroppy when other people are walking slower than you round the shops in Churchill Square!!!!

I can't believe anyone would be that impatient.

 

[Man of Harveys]

In a crowded country, getting from A to B is almost always going to be a stressful experience, no matter how you travel.

But it's far less stressful in other nearby countries which are much more crowded than the UK - such as the Netherlands, for example, which is almost twice as densely-populated as the UK - when they have proper, reliable public transport.