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[Brighton] Lost buiildings of Brighton?
- Thread starter Swansman
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Bloody hell! I learnt to swim there in the 70s!
brighton terra
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It was a magnificent building. It’s such a shame it wasn’t converted in the same way as the Manor Road Garage, in East Preston. But we all know that money talks.
https://www.wowhaus.co.uk/2019/12/16/apartment-1930s-manor-road-garage-east-preston-west-sussex/
Hu_Camus
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It turns out that Weller's gran and aunt Rosie were in the audience and he didn't want them to see the tank top Grandma knitted get covered in gob.
Old ladies still smoked in those days, as you can see
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Hu_Camus
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Were they backed by the Dr's of Madness that night.?...I liked them, and I know I saw them at the SuiteBloody Hell. Have posted on this several times previously. I was at that gig, and still have the ticket stub
Cadiz Seagull
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I saw pretty well every pop star that existed at the Hippodrome during the 60's and very early 70's, with the exception of Elvis. He never even made the country let alone arrived in the building to leave it.
Cadiz Seagull
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Yes, yes there were.
The Embassy
The Classic
The Astoria
The Regent
The Odeon
ABC Hove
The Rothbury Portslade
The Continentale Kemp Town
The Vogue
Duke of Yorks
The Brighton Film theatre (or similar!)
Just off the top of my head from 60s and 70s.
That was back in the day when the only 'Action' you would see out where the Marina now is, was a bit of winkling, if you were lucky
Yes, yes they were all very well but lots of these didn't have the facilities that a young man in the prime of his life needed. My preferred choice was the Orion in Hassocks that had DOUBLE SEATS
And you could go across the road Adastra Park afterwards to recover or carry on, depending on how successful you had been.I think I need to go and lie down now.
Not at The Embassy I don't think. I have seen Drs of Madness three times (once at the Suite - same gig as you I would imagine - Kid thrown in a strait jacket at the end and carried off by men in white coats
), once at the Dome (the were supporting Bebob Deluxe - that was a laugh as 200 15 year old female Bill Nelson fans shat themselves when Kid Strange started reading from Naked Lunch in the darkness before they burst into 'Waiting' ) and once....somewhere in London (Marquee? Nashville). My Embassy ticket, if my memory serves me well (it is upstairs somewhere) has 'Slitz' as the support (not the Slits, some other band).
Hu_Camus
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The Dr's were never a headline I went see....I think it was the Jam at the Suite.Not at The Embassy I don't think. I have seen Drs of Madness three times (once at the Suite - same gig as you I would imagine - Kid thrown in a strait jacket at the end and carried off by men in white coats
Now Dr Feelgood at the Suite.....there was a headliner.
BeBop were a disappointment in my book.
Maybe I saw the Jam as the Suite as well as at the Embassy so it may have been that. Knowing me, I might have left before the Jam came on, for one of several reasons
Never saw Feelgood
Bebop were good when they released the first album (Axe Victim), then went badly down hill.
ps - just had a peek and there is a version of dioctors of madness still going (Kid plus others), DVDs and all sorts. Bonkers!
Portland Gate in Portland Road, Hove gained nationwide notoriety for all the wrong reasons.*
Built some time in the 1930s in the modernist style it had an early close brush with tragedy in 1940 during the Battle of Britain when a Hurricane fighter piloted by a 20 year old RAF airman named Dennis Noble ploughed into a piece of wasteland on Woodhouse Road just yards*away from*Portland Gate. Sergeant Noble's body together with the wreckage of the Hurricane remained buried in the ground where it had crashed for 56 years until they were exhumed in 1996.
*http://aircrewremembered.com/noble-dennis.html
A few decades after the war Portland Gate had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the infamous slum landlord Nicholas Hoogstraten some time around the 1970s. With his trademark disregard and contempt for his tenants, Hoogstraten let Portland Gate fall into such a state of disrepair that a journalist once compared it to* a scene from war torn Beirut.
So having survived unscathed through the perils of WW2 and the bombings of the German Luftwaffe Portland Gate finally began to crumble under the malign ownership of Nicholas Hoogstaten.
The conditions in which the tenants of Portland Gate were force to live caused such a scandal that in 1993 Labour MP Keith Vaz*tabled an early day motion in Parliament for a compulsory purchase order. 33 Labour MPs signed the motion including Ken Livingstone and Diane Abbot. The motion however was rejected by the Tories.
https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/6008/portland-gate-flatshove
Portland Gate was thrust into the public eye again in 1995 when Tony Blair,* the then leader of the Labour Party, was photographed peering out of the broken windows of the crumbing block which he visited during the Labour Party conference. When Labour came to power in 1997 they enacted their plans for compulsory purchase, and demolition commenced soon after.
In its place was built McNair Court which was named after Robin McNair an RAF fighter pilot who had served in the Battle of Britain and who had lived locally.
http://history.buses.co.uk/history/fleethist/466rm.htm
The next block of flats along from McNair Court is Noble Court which is named after Dennis Noble the RAF Battle of Britain pilot whose Hurricane had crashed near the site on which Noble Court was subsequently built.
McNair Court:
Most on here will be familiar with the name and deeds of Nicholas Hoogstraten, but those who are not, possibly like [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] who started this thread, here are a couple of links which will enlighten you...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theargus.co.uk/news/6755570.amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.st...ts-feared-ignorant-psychotic-6310433.html?amp
Built some time in the 1930s in the modernist style it had an early close brush with tragedy in 1940 during the Battle of Britain when a Hurricane fighter piloted by a 20 year old RAF airman named Dennis Noble ploughed into a piece of wasteland on Woodhouse Road just yards*away from*Portland Gate. Sergeant Noble's body together with the wreckage of the Hurricane remained buried in the ground where it had crashed for 56 years until they were exhumed in 1996.
*http://aircrewremembered.com/noble-dennis.html
A few decades after the war Portland Gate had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the infamous slum landlord Nicholas Hoogstraten some time around the 1970s. With his trademark disregard and contempt for his tenants, Hoogstraten let Portland Gate fall into such a state of disrepair that a journalist once compared it to* a scene from war torn Beirut.
So having survived unscathed through the perils of WW2 and the bombings of the German Luftwaffe Portland Gate finally began to crumble under the malign ownership of Nicholas Hoogstaten.
The conditions in which the tenants of Portland Gate were force to live caused such a scandal that in 1993 Labour MP Keith Vaz*tabled an early day motion in Parliament for a compulsory purchase order. 33 Labour MPs signed the motion including Ken Livingstone and Diane Abbot. The motion however was rejected by the Tories.
https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/6008/portland-gate-flatshove
Portland Gate was thrust into the public eye again in 1995 when Tony Blair,* the then leader of the Labour Party, was photographed peering out of the broken windows of the crumbing block which he visited during the Labour Party conference. When Labour came to power in 1997 they enacted their plans for compulsory purchase, and demolition commenced soon after.
In its place was built McNair Court which was named after Robin McNair an RAF fighter pilot who had served in the Battle of Britain and who had lived locally.
http://history.buses.co.uk/history/fleethist/466rm.htm
The next block of flats along from McNair Court is Noble Court which is named after Dennis Noble the RAF Battle of Britain pilot whose Hurricane had crashed near the site on which Noble Court was subsequently built.
McNair Court:
Most on here will be familiar with the name and deeds of Nicholas Hoogstraten, but those who are not, possibly like [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] who started this thread, here are a couple of links which will enlighten you...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theargus.co.uk/news/6755570.amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.st...ts-feared-ignorant-psychotic-6310433.html?amp
Marty___Mcfly
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Thanks for that. Very interesting.
Hu_Camus
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https://youtu.be/U6Sybniq9I0Maybe I saw the Jam as the Suite as well as at the Embassy so it may have been that. Knowing me, I might have left before the Jam came on, for one of SEVERAL REASONS
Never saw Feelgood
Bebop were good when they released the first album (Axe Victim), then went badly down hill.
ps - just had a peek and there is a version of dioctors of madness still going (Kid plus others), DVDs and all sorts. Bonkers!
One of those nights?
Not Andy Naylor
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Kemp Town Railway station - if I remember correctly, it wasn't on Eastern Road itself but one road back?
Yes, it was Coalbrook Road.
I'm fairly certain that these two photos and the original photo you referred to were not taken in the 1950s.
Men were not still wearing the two piece style swimsuit in the 1950s which many of the men in all of those photos are wearing.
They were starting to go out of fashion by the late 1930s and would have been out of fashion and rarely seen by the mid 40s. By the 50s men were wearing one piece trunks and I don't think any man would have been seen dead in a two piece by then.
The photos look mid to late 30s to me. Black Rock was built in 1936 so I think they were taken soon after it opened late 30s.
Another clue is your "1954" pic. The flats in the background appear to be Marine Gate. If you look closely they still appear to be under construction but almost finished. Marine Gate was constructed in 1939 which I assume is when it was completed. This would indicate that the photo is 1939.
So that particular photo was taken around 1938/39. I would also suggest that the photo [MENTION=12422]Taybha[/MENTION] refers to was also taken around the same time given the style of swimsuits some of the other men in the photo are wearing.
It doesn't rule out the possibility of the man on the diving board being [MENTION=12422]Taybha[/MENTION] 's dad, it just means he would have been 15 years younger - late teens early 20s perhaps. It also means he would have been at the forefront of fashion having himself ditched the two piece.
Can I ask why you believe they were taken in 1952 and 1954? Is a date written on them somewhere? If so can you post.
Here's a link to men's swimsuit fashions which will help you.
https://vintagedancer.com/mens-fashion-history/vintage-mens-swimsuits-history/
And here's a couple of men's swimsuit ads.
This ad is from the 1930s....
And this one is from the 1950s. Not a two piece in sight....
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Sorry but when I get on to these sorts of things I'm like a dog with a bone. I've just done some more research.
The "Copyright Wardell's" inscription at the bottom of your "1954" postcard indicates it was published by Bill Wardell who published and sold postcards in Brighton from around 1917 up to the 1940s. He died in 1962 aged 83.
This would also suggest that the photo is earlier than the 1954 date you attribute to it.
See link....
http://www.sussexpostcards.info/publishers.php?PubID=296
Bloody Hell. Have posted on this several times previously. I was at that gig, and still have the ticket stub
We could have told you that, Grandad.
Saw them a few years back at the Prince Albert - Kid + Urban Blitz + two newbies. They were great.
I didn't see them in 76/77. Attila and I went to see them at the Marquee, thinking it would be easy to get in, but Dave Vanian had just joined them and the Damned fans flocked to see him - so we couldn't get in. They were one of my favourite bands back in the day - still listen to them now.
The opening four tracks of 'Late Night Movies..." are stunning.
I salute you impeccable taste
