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[Politics] Liz Truss **RESIGNS 20/10/2022**



BenGarfield

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Feb 22, 2019
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If you KNEW tax (or contribution) was being used to benefit you and your community and your children etc, why wouldn't you want to pay/contribute more tax? Since f***ing King John, the problem is that the rulers/establishment spend tax pounds on the wrong f***ing things!
The right wing individualist argument to this is that an individual’s money is theirs and the less well off will either have to work harder or rely on charity. The state has no right to an individuals hard earned income and tax is a sort of theft in their view.
 






vegster

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May 5, 2008
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She may have fielded 4 questions, but she didn't actually answer any of them. All she did was parrot the phrases she had rehearsed:

'I am determined...............economic stability..............difficult issues..........', with wooden hand movements.

Then, at the end of each answer, she didn't refer back to the questioner, to see if she had answered his question. After all that has happened, it was nowhere near good enough.
You forgot that most of our troubles are down to " Putin's Abominable Attack on Ukraine " according to Liz, she never fails to get that one in.... obviously this has drained the NHS of staff, caused a backdated rise in Food Bank use and 12 years of austerity... that she watched happen from a ministerial position.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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Do you know anything about the subject?
I appreciate you have got pelters for your posts on this thread, and don't seem to care, which is admirable, and I'm not bothered by your wittering, but do you have a clear idea, yourself, of what point you're trying to make? Just idle curiosity, perhaps tinged with some concern that you may be having some sort of midlife crisis.

Edit - your take on the right wing view about tax is correct. There are swathes of noisy Americans who consider all tax as evil, and because they believe in God, have decided that the government is an instrument of devilry, and should be opposed with weapons. And this of course is where this always ends: weapons.
 


crodonilson

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Jan 17, 2005
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Lyme Regis
Deputy Prime Minister Therese Coffee tweeted: "The PM is right to act now to ensure our country's economic stability - key for families and businesses - and reassure the markets of our fiscal discipline, especially in light of the worsening global economic conditions with Putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine."
 






Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Deputy Prime Minister Therese Coffee tweeted: "The PM is right to act now to ensure our country's economic stability - key for families and businesses - and reassure the markets of our fiscal discipline, especially in light of the worsening global economic conditions with Putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine."
If she hadn't 'acted' in the first place - the markets wouldn't have needed re-assuring....
 


Not Andy Naylor

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Dec 12, 2007
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Will Liz Truss get as much grief in the media for sacking a black chancellor as TB dud for sacking Chris Hughton?
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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I think @Steve Foster is the only person who still believes in the mini-budget. He spoke about it in such glowing terms as well. I don’t know what he does for a living but I sincerely hope he doesn’t give financial advice :lolol:
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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This woman is wayyyy out of her depth. Trashed the economy and the government is in disarray within a couple of weeks of her being appointed PM, that really does take some doing.
Johnson would love you to believe she has managed to trash the economy in 4 weeks and that his efforts for the last 3 years were completely forgotten :lolol:

But Government in disarray is certainly down to her :thumbsup:
 




Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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I am not a political person and know very little, but one thing is pretty clear this is a complete shambles.
Is there precedent for the government to throw it's hands up and in the air, and say you have a go then.
Yes, in 1905 the Conservatives and Unionists under Arthur Balfour resigned the government (despite a substantial majority), hoping that the Liberals would split while trying to govern allowing them to win the next election.
In the election that followed, the Conservatives and Unionists were promptly swept away in one of the largest landslides in the UK's electoral history, and won the fewest seats they've ever managed in a general election. So far.
 




Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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You're all being too kind to Liz Truss.

She was appointed PM by the queen on 6 Sep.
The queen died on 8 Sep, so from then until the queen's funeral on 19 Sep, Liz Truss had her hands tied with state funeral stuff. She didn't really have the opportunity to cock a lot up until after the funeral.

But from 19 Sep onwards, it was all cyclone Liz - a mini-budget, market turmoil, a U-turn, a scapegoat and bus lined up, a sacking, a new chancellor, a new plan. Has the cyclone passed yet? Does Liz admit to doing anything wrong? No and no.
 




Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Johnson would love you to believe she has managed to trash the economy in 4 weeks and that his efforts for the last 3 years were completely forgotten :lolol:

But Government in disarray is certainly down to her :thumbsup:
Did you not hear her - it was 'The Previous Government' who were/are at fault. Whoever they were - obviously nothing whatsoever to do with her....
 


A1X

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Deepest, darkest Sussex
 


pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
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Did you not hear her - it was 'The Previous Government' who were/are at fault. Whoever they were - obviously nothing whatsoever to do with her....
No doubt she has Hunt down as one of the anti-growth-coalition members, following his time in previous Governments. Presumably also Kwarteng who she just fired :shrug:
 








Eric the meek

Fiveways Wilf
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Aug 24, 2020
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In the tradition of tracking incoming new players, we need to track Sir Graham Brady's flight back from Athens on Monday.

He's a big bloke - you can't miss him.
 


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