[Albion] List of players that have gone backwards under the current coach

[One Teddy Maybank]

It's fine to disagree, but what's the alternative? Unfortunately FH is measured on actuals (points, league position etc.) rather than subjective views, such as the PL being a lower standard this season as an example, where plenty of people will have different opinions.

If FH is still here next season (my view is he will, but not because I think he's doing a fantastic job, he's doing ok imho) if we finish Top 6 then plenty on here will need to eat humble pie. If we finish Top 10, that's how he's measured, like it or not.

Hope you’re right re next season.
I’ll happily eat the pie, if it means we’re top 6 or 7, because, the aforementioned teams are unlikely to be this poor two seasons running, and that will be a good achievement.

 

[ewe2]

I am going to stand up for the manager. Our operations main task is to bring young players on and eventually sell them for hopefully a profit,while at the same time ,maintaining at least a top ten finish.I reckon that’s quite a challenge,especially as young players often take time to settle,and to be honest even some of the more more mature signings need time as well.

 

[1066familyman]

All valid points. Such a strange season for the league in general and a glaring opportunity to fill the void usually occupied by the traditional big clubs (also a year with three of the worst promoted sides in PL history). On the flipside, it's been great for ourselves, Fulham, Bournemouth and Brentford to be those stubborn, mid-table decent teams who are fighting for Europe (the battle for 8th! ...Dun... dun... daaaarrghh).

Next season will be so much tougher. I think you can also add a very fiesty and decent, dirty Leeds into the mix for mid/upper-mid table. Burnley might have a nice bounce and Everton may also be more resurgent in their new home. Surely Spuds and ManU will improve?

The PL doesn't get any easier, but yes, this year was a freak year. Despite what is looking like a historically excellent final, top flight points tally for us, there is still that nagging feeling it is a huge opportunity missed – through of a combo of shooting ourselves in the foot (tactical naivety), bad luck (injuries) and daft game management – plus of a cocktail of inexperience. I just hope the freak year doesn't end with that lot up the road winning the FA Cup – because then they, not us, would have taken advantage of it.

*Note. I realise my post has absolutely nothing to do with the original thread question.

Why do you not mention players not putting it in, or doing the basics right, as another factor?

Weststander has already posted one video with examples of the above from Estupinán alone! He's not the only defender, or covering midfielder, that's been guilty of that either.

Yes, there's been some tactical naivety that have left our defenders exposed and cost us points. The Chelski drubbing being the most obvious example. However, I'm just not willing to put all the blame for lost points on the manager all of the time. Some of the players have to take responsibility for some of our poor performances and results too, IMHO.

 

[Doug-ees-evil]

Why do you not mention players not putting it in, or doing the basics right, as another factor?

Weststander has already posted one video with examples of the above from Estupinán alone! He's not the only defender, or covering midfielder, that's been guilty of that either.

Yes, there's been some tactical naivety that have left our defenders exposed and cost us points. The Chelski drubbing being the most obvious example. However, I'm just not willing to put all the blame for lost points on the manager all of the time. Some of the players have to take responsibility for some of our poor performances and results too, IMHO.

Not disagreeing with you at all there. Forgot to add that. There are many factors and players falling below basic standards at times is another valid one. Hopefully it all clicks beautifully next season!