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Letting Agents - Admin Fees



Badger

NOT the Honey Badger
NSC Patron
May 8, 2007
12,794
Toronto
It turns out the letting agents are ripping off both parties:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...d-is-charged-616-to-change-light-fitting.html

Foxtons, the London based estate agency, could be hit with a legal bill running into tens of millions of pounds, solicitors have claimed, after a landlord launched action over the extortionate cost of a light fitting repair.

Dr Chris Townley, a law lecturer at King’s College, employed Foxtons in 2011 to let and manage his London property.

For two years things went smoothly, but then in 2013 he was left incredulous after receiving a £616 bill for a repair to a light fitting at the flat.

Unhappy with the standard of work he complained and was told it had been carried out by a subcontractor.

However when he contacted the company that had carried out the work, Maintenance1st, he was horrified to discover they had actually charged much less for the work.

In fact the subcontractor had only charged £412.50 for the job, with the rest of the bill being made up of charges added on by Foxtons.
When he challenged the firm, which was valued at almost £800 million when it floated on the stock market two years ago, it admitted that it had added £203 in extra charges.
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Solicitors acting for Dr Townley have now written to Foxtons demanding compensation, claiming that the hidden charges were not covered in the landlord’s contract.
But they also claim that if successful thousands of other landlords could also be entitled to pay-outs which could end up costing the company more than £40 million.
The final bill Dr Townley received was £550 plus £66 VAT, however the amount charged by the subcontractor had only been £412.50.
Foxtons subsequently told Dr Townley it had added a £137.50 commission – 33 per cent of the subcontractor’s fee.
On top of that Foxtons added a ten per cent “ad hoc management charge” plus VAT because the invoice was over £500.
However Dr Townley pointed out that the only reason it exceeded that sum was because of the 33 per cent fee added by Foxtons.
Solicitors, Leigh Day, acting for Dr Townley have now begun legal action, writing to the estate agent, alleging the ‘hidden commission’ was not covered in the landlord’s contract.
The firm says thousands of other landlords will also be entitled to compensation from Foxtons, even if they did not have work carried out and estimate the final bill could reach as much as £42 million.
Dr Townley said: “When I first heard there was a commission I was not happy, but thought it may be 2 or 3 per cent. When I found out the real amount I thought it was shocking.”
A spokesman for Foxtons said: “We are incredibly disappointed to hear when any customer is dissatisfied with the service they have received, however, as a legal dispute we are not in a position to comment on the specifics of this case.
“We are satisfied though that our fees are clearly laid out within our terms and conditions and that approvals are obtained from our landlords before works commence on their property.”
 




spring hall convert

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
I have to say that in my experience, DPS were totally inert and completely useless when our landlord refused to release our deposit or to even correspond with us. She failed to meet any deadline given by DPS but still they would do nothing.

I'd still not have any of it now if we hadn't taken her to court.

Same experience here, though it was very early on in the schemes life. Landlord held onto our deposit for around 6 weeks, despite acknowleding the flat was better when we moved out than when we moved in. Got it back in the end but it was a total nuisance.
 


brightonrock

Dodgy Hamstrings
Jan 1, 2008
2,482
I've just moved into a new flat with my gf and her old landlords have charged a "check out fee" just for leaving the property, which they've deducted from her deposit, despite the end of tenancy inspection confirming the flat was in perfect condition. How is that justified? What is the administration fee at the start of a tenancy, if not for this exact sort of inspection, which is their obligation? We wouldn't be allowed to charge an administration fee for our obligation of paying rent on time or cleaning the flat. It's incredible that they can deduct a fee with complete bare-faced impunity and without any shame whatsoever. Something should be done in legislation to prevent this sort of thing because it's basically legalised theft. They can invent a fee and a woolly justification for it and there's little to nothing a tenant can do, despite staying in that flat for four years and leaving it in perfect condition.
 


sully

Dunscouting
Jul 7, 2003
7,843
Worthing
I've just moved into a new flat with my gf and her old landlords have charged a "check out fee" just for leaving the property, which they've deducted from her deposit, despite the end of tenancy inspection confirming the flat was in perfect condition. How is that justified? What is the administration fee at the start of a tenancy, if not for this exact sort of inspection, which is their obligation? We wouldn't be allowed to charge an administration fee for our obligation of paying rent on time or cleaning the flat. It's incredible that they can deduct a fee with complete bare-faced impunity and without any shame whatsoever. Something should be done in legislation to prevent this sort of thing because it's basically legalised theft. They can invent a fee and a woolly justification for it and there's little to nothing a tenant can do, despite staying in that flat for four years and leaving it in perfect condition.

They get away with it because they are not challenged enough.

Check the original agreement that your girlfriend had with them to see if this fee was mentioned. If not, demand it be refunded or take them to the small claims court. They have to justify a deduction. They have no right to just take money off you. It's not "legalised" theft, as it's not legal.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,623
The professional body here is ARLA - the Association of Residential Letting Agents.

If the agent is ARLA-registered and they're acting dishonestly then could be punished. Therefore, if you're renting or letting it's always advisable to go through an ARLA- accredited agent.
 




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