Learning to drive INTENSIVE style. Advice?

[steward 433]

You misunderstood me it should be part of the curiculum as is maths and english etc

But are you saying either.

A. They will not have to pay if they don't pass the practical within the two years and have to take it again or.

B. It has no expiry date?

 

[BensGrandad]

They dont pay for the theory whilst at school if they then go on and complete the practical good luck but if not they pay to take the test again at later date.

 

[steward 433]

They dont pay whilst at school if they then go on and complete the practical good luck but if not they pay to take the test again at later date.

But that penalises the people who don't have the money to take the practical straight away.

Like the people who don't have rich parents are working for a low wage

£5.73 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older
A development rate of £4.77 per hour for workers aged 18-21 inclusive
£3.53 per hour for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age.

And have to save hard maybe taking more than the two years!!

 

[BensGrandad]

But that penalises the people who don't have the money to take the practical straight away.

Like the people who don't have rich parents are working for a low wage

£5.73 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older
A development rate of £4.77 per hour for workers aged 18-21 inclusive
£3.53 per hour for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age.

And have to save hard maybe taking more than the two years!!

It gives everybody irrespective of their means the opportunity to be taught the theory properly,

The wealth and money problem is the same regards the driving test irrespective of age. A wealthy dad can afford to give his offspring 5 or 6 lessons a week whereby another paying their own fees may only be able to afford 1 a week or 1 a fortnight.

 

[steward 433]

It gives everybody irrespective of their means the opportunity to be taught the theory properly,

The wealth and money problem is the same regards the driving test irrespective of age. A wealthy dad can afford to give his offspring 5 or 6 lessons a week whereby another paying their own fees may only be able to afford 1 a week or 1 a fortnight.

But it still penalises the poor.

 

[BensGrandad]

But it still penalises the poor.

I fail to see how the poor are worse off by taking the theory test and possibly passing it free at school rather than waiting for the time that they can afford to pay to take it after leaving school.

 

[steward 433]

I fail to see how the poor are worse off by taking the theory test and possibly passing it free at school rather than waiting for the time that they can afford to pay to take it after leaving school.

If they can't afford to take the practical before it runs out. It then favours the rich who can.

 

[BensGrandad]

If they can't afford to take the practical before it runs out. It then favours the rich who can.

So does it if they do not take the theory at school

Sir Bruno Knobrot can give his son/daughter the money for the theory test and lessons and take the driving test as soon as they reach 17, A man on disability benefit probably couldnt so his child would have to wait and save up to take the theory and then having passed that probably wait months while he/she has 1 lesson aweek and then wait while they get together the test fee. Unfortunately whatever is done those with money or parents with money will benefit more than those whose dont have. Its a fact of life. A free theory test as part pof the normalschool curiculum would eleviate one obstacle for many, not all granted but the vast majority.

 

[steward 433]

So does it if they do not take the theory at school

Sir Bruno Knobrot can give his son/daughter the money for the theory test and lessons and take the driving test as soon as they reach 17, A man on disability benefit probably couldnt so his child would have to wait and save up to take the theory and then having passed that probably wait months while he/she has 1 lesson aweek and then wait while they get together the test fee. Unfortunately whatever is done those with money or parents with money will benefit more than those whose dont have. Its a fact of life. A free theory test as part pof the normalschool curiculum would eleviate one obstacle for many, not all granted but the vast majority.

Fair point it will help a certain amount of pupils but i guess you can't help all!!

 

[Adam Virgo's Shirt]

I think BG has a point that it would be beneficial to teach pupils the theory whilst still at school

When I was at school we did cycling proficiency, and it would just be an extension of that really. It could also reduce accidents I'm sure as knowing the theory of road safety would surely help make you more aware of the road as a pedestrian?!

However, I also agree with Steward, but maybe if there was a 'lite' version of the theory that is taught to under 16's, then you topped it up and took the proper theory test when you were ready to apply for the actual driving test? A bit like doing CBT for a motorbike??

 

[Cian]

I did driving theory and practical lessons (real cars but in a closed car park) in school... thought it was fairly normal?

 

[Bad Ash]

I did driving theory and practical lessons (real cars but in a closed car park) in school... thought it was fairly normal?

Not in England. You see it on American movies a lot though.

 

[strings]

I like BensGrandad's suggestion, however I think the curriculum is already overfull, there is very little that could be taken out in order to teach driving theory.

Maybe school's should offer it as a free, yet optional after-school lesson.

As for the original subject; I do not know anybody that passed after an intensive course - they all needed a few lessons afterwards to properly get the knack of driving to test standard. However, it may still be useful - it would shave off a couple of months of the total time needed to learn (assuming you had 1/2 lessos a week).

 

[Bad Ash]

I like BensGrandad's suggestion, however I think the curriculum is already overfull, there is very little that could be taken out in order to teach driving theory.

I did 12 GCSE's (this was 10 years ago, I imagine kids do 20+ these days), but you only need 5 to get into college. This suggests that there is plenty of space that could be freed up for something which many would find much more practical.

I did Geography, not because I had any interest in it, but because I found it relatively easy and had to choose one subject from that block to fill up my timetable.

I also did French and in the 10 years that have passed I haven't used anything that I learnt in those 2 years of GCSE lessons (and if I'm honest, very little of what I learnt in the 4 years previous to that) - which is something I could have predicted at the time.

 

[Clothes Peg]

I believe that the theory should be taught in the last year at school.

I don't think it needs to be taught. At school, the most preparation the majority of us did was an afternoon's vague flick through the highway code and we shared a practice CD Rom for the hazard perceptoion. Hardly anyone fails the theory test and it's mostly common sense. Really no need for it to be included in citizenship education.