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[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......



TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
12,950
Problems for Labour and Kier in the future?

"The suspended Labour veteran John McDonnell has called for a grassroots leadership challenge to the Labour government, warning that unless party members, unions and MPs “stand up and assert themselves to take back control of our party”, Labour risks losing not just its power: “We could lose a party.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...adership-challenge-to-keir-starmer-government
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
27,211
Sussex by the Sea
Problems for Labour and Kier in the future?

"The suspended Labour veteran John McDonnell has called for a grassroots leadership challenge to the Labour government, warning that unless party members, unions and MPs “stand up and assert themselves to take back control of our party”, Labour risks losing not just its power: “We could lose a party.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...adership-challenge-to-keir-starmer-government
Well I for one NEVER saw this coming.

:ohmy:
 






n1 gull

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Jul 25, 2003
4,748
Hurstpierpoint


Richard Tice MP



Amazing Reform win last night in Wales In Labour heartland…. Roll on Welsh elections May 26 Well done

Lliedi (Carmarthenshire) Council By-Election Result: RFM: 42.6% (New) LAB: 23.4% (-34.9)
 




cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
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Richard Tice MP


Amazing Reform win last night in Wales In Labour heartland…. Roll on Welsh elections May 26 Well done

Lliedi (Carmarthenshire) Council By-Election Result: RFM: 42.6% (New) LAB: 23.4% (-34.9)

Richard Tice MP


Amazing Reform win last night in Wales In Labour heartland…. Roll on Welsh elections May 26 Well done

Lliedi (Carmarthenshire) Council By-Election Result: RFM: 42.6% (New) LAB: 23.4% (-34.9)
Maybe not so amazing given Wales was in favour of Brexit and is a traditional labour heartland, not the effete metropolitan fabian constituency.

in Wales and the other similar traditional areas Labour and Starmer must be girding their loins (no pun intended) for the incoming fallout (no pun intended) of the ongoing Ukrainian rent boy arsonist (no pun intended) tag team episode.

Lord Alli isn’t going to be able to solve this problem with a new designer wardrobe and Taylor Swift tickets for those in the know……

interesting times.
 


carlzeiss

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May 19, 2009
6,464
Amazonia
Maybe not so amazing given Wales was in favour of Brexit and is a traditional labour heartland, not the effete metropolitan fabian constituency.

in Wales and the other similar traditional areas Labour and Starmer must be girding their loins (no pun intended) for the incoming fallout (no pun intended) of the ongoing Ukrainian rent boy arsonist (no pun intended) tag team episode.

Lord Alli isn’t going to be able to solve this problem with a new designer wardrobe and Taylor Swift tickets for those in the know……

interesting times.
At least the Chinese are happy with our PM



China hails Chagos Islands deal as ‘massive achievement’​

The approval of Beijing’s ambassador to Mauritius contradicts Sir Keir Starmer’s claim that China had opposed the deal
 


fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
2,412
in a house


China hails Chagos Islands deal as ‘massive achievement’​

The approval of Beijing’s ambassador to Mauritius contradicts Sir Keir Starmer’s claim that China had opposed the deal
Starmer must think we are idiots if we would believe us handing over the Chagos Islands, plus millions of pounds, to Chinese loving Mauritius wouldn't be seen as a massive plus for China. How long before they have their own base on the islands.
 




pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
7,032
Maybe not so amazing given Wales was in favour of Brexit and is a traditional labour heartland, not the effete metropolitan fabian constituency.

in Wales and the other similar traditional areas Labour and Starmer must be girding their loins (no pun intended) for the incoming fallout (no pun intended) of the ongoing Ukrainian rent boy arsonist (no pun intended) tag team episode.

Lord Alli isn’t going to be able to solve this problem with a new designer wardrobe and Taylor Swift tickets for those in the know……

interesting times.
So you believe these twitter insinuations?
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
16,899
Cumbria
Richard Tice MP


Amazing Reform win last night in Wales In Labour heartland…. Roll on Welsh elections May 26 Well done

Lliedi (Carmarthenshire) Council By-Election Result: RFM: 42.6% (New) LAB: 23.4% (-34.9)
Huge huge numbers.
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cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
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So you believe these twitter insinuations?
I’m not on twitter, so you will know those insinuations better than me.

What I do know is three feeble arson attacks, including two on the PM’s personally owned houses by a group of ex pat Ukrainian homosexuals does create a number of questions that are unresolved and un probed by the press. The press in fact, ran the story that the attacks could be instructed by Putin. No one is being fooled by that line.

All the insinuations you reference could all be shut down by Starmer confirming he has never met any of those men, and I was staggered that wasn’t part of his speech on the matter when he referenced it as an attack on democracy. Until it is the rumour mill will continue to crank on.

For many people tired of a negligent political class I think they could probably stomach a bit of degeneracy if there was some competence. Currently for Starmer if it turns out he’s been playing pass the bratwurst with any of these Ukrainian twinkies he’s done with the public.

His relationship with Lord Alli is at best odd, and it increasingly looks like Lord Alli’s money is used to manage an image of a family man when in fact Starmer is an absolute screamer. This is not a new development in the political class, it’s as old as the hills, can you remember the Labour MP that had a “butler”?
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Putin (Hitler 2.0) has sent agents across Europe including the UK to carry out damaging arson attacks on businesses. This is the same thing. Ukraine’s east contained treacherous fifth columnists, ethnic Russians, very much the minority. Whilst recent UK court cases have featured his agents from Bulgaria.

That’s all this is. Case solved.

In the meantime Putin like a puppet with a string, has thick right wingers and conspiracy theorists eg :dunce: Le Tissier:dunce: in the west dancing to his every online tune. He must laughing his ugly head off at the gullible. He also did this with dim Brits believing Macron hid a bag of cocaine in full view of the world’s media. The state of these people.
 




Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Fiveways
Putin (Hitler 2.0) has sent agents across Europe including the UK to carry out damaging arson attacks on businesses. This is the same thing. Ukraine’s east contained treacherous fifth columnists, ethnic Russians, very much the minority. Whilst recent UK court cases have featured his agents from Bulgaria.

That’s all this is. Case solved.

In the meantime Putin like a puppet with a string, has thick right wingers and conspiracy theorists eg :dunce: Le Tissier:dunce: in the west dancing to his every online tune. He must laughing his ugly head off at the gullible. He also did this with dim Brits believing Macron hid a bag of cocaine in full view of the world’s media. The state of these people.
Spot on. Conspiracy theorists are alive and well on this thread.
 


AlbionBro

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Jun 6, 2020
1,652
Problems for Labour and Kier in the future?

"The suspended Labour veteran John McDonnell has called for a grassroots leadership challenge to the Labour government, warning that unless party members, unions and MPs “stand up and assert themselves to take back control of our party”, Labour risks losing not just its power: “We could lose a party.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...adership-challenge-to-keir-starmer-government
This is something I have being saying for a long time now. I got accused for being right wing for saying it by someone on here. Starmer is destroying Labour, its time for "change" as Starmer might say, perhaps they can move "faster and harder" on this.
 


darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
8,307
Sittingbourne, Kent
I’m not on twitter, so you will know those insinuations better than me.

What I do know is three feeble arson attacks, including two on the PM’s personally owned houses by a group of ex pat Ukrainian homosexuals does create a number of questions that are unresolved and un probed by the press. The press in fact, ran the story that the attacks could be instructed by Putin. No one is being fooled by that line.

All the insinuations you reference could all be shut down by Starmer confirming he has never met any of those men, and I was staggered that wasn’t part of his speech on the matter when he referenced it as an attack on democracy. Until it is the rumour mill will continue to crank on.

For many people tired of a negligent political class I think they could probably stomach a bit of degeneracy if there was some competence. Currently for Starmer if it turns out he’s been playing pass the bratwurst with any of these Ukrainian twinkies he’s done with the public.

His relationship with Lord Alli is at best odd, and it increasingly looks like Lord Alli’s money is used to manage an image of a family man when in fact Starmer is an absolute screamer. This is not a new development in the political class, it’s as old as the hills, can you remember the Labour MP that had a “butler”?
I left Twitter, precisely to avoid this sort of pathetic shit - put on ignore!
 






cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
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Putin (Hitler 2.0) has sent agents across Europe including the UK to carry out damaging arson attacks on businesses. This is the same thing. Ukraine’s east contained treacherous fifth columnists, ethnic Russians, very much the minority. Whilst recent UK court cases have featured his agents from Bulgaria.

That’s all this is. Case solved.

In the meantime Putin like a puppet with a string, has thick right wingers and conspiracy theorists eg :dunce: Le Tissier:dunce: in the west dancing to his every online tune. He must laughing his ugly head off at the gullible. He also did this with dim Brits believing Macron hid a bag of cocaine in full view of the world’s media. The state of these people.
Whilst there’s little doubt Putin has his agents in the west, the arson attacks on Starmer’s properties and a car he previously owned were hardly “damaging” let alone life threatening.

If you are selling the narrative that these attacks on Starmer’s property were at the behest of Putin in some ways that’s far far worse than the possibility that Kier is in the closet.

However, what has to be believed is that Putin’s agents who have previously carried out lethal assassinations in the west using substances and methods no one knew about till they were exposed, were unaware that the PM of the U.K. is in residence in highly protected Downing Street, (as opposed to to the personal address subject to attack).

Conspiracy theories develop when there is a vacuum of truth or transparency particularly around matters which are being “managed”. The Southport riots are a perfect example of that. All Starmer needs to do is confirm he has had no relationship with any of those men arrested……..then, so long as you believe him, it’s case solved.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Whilst there’s little doubt Putin has his agents in the west, the arson attacks on Starmer’s properties and a car he previously owned were hardly “damaging” let alone life threatening.

If you are selling the narrative that these attacks on Starmer’s property were at the behest of Putin in some ways that’s far far worse than the possibility that Kier is in the closet.

However, what has to be believed is that Putin’s agents who have previously carried out lethal assassinations in the west using substances and methods no one knew about till they were exposed, were unaware that the PM of the U.K. is in residence in highly protected Downing Street, (as opposed to to the personal address subject to attack).

Conspiracy theories develop when there is a vacuum of truth or transparency particularly around matters which are being “managed”. The Southport riots are a perfect example of that. All Starmer needs to do is confirm he has had no relationship with any of those men arrested……..then, so long as you believe him, it’s case solved.

It’s to cause crank theories and discord eg here. It works.

All will be revealed in that court case.

Putin is stitching up conspiracy theorists and right wingers in the West like a kipper (puns to follow).
 


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