[Albion] Knockaert joins Fulham on initial one-year loan

[the right footed denilson]

I'm Genuinely confused with our transfer strategy at the moment. Buying another CB (not really needed) getting cover of Jose (yes makes sense) however after that no idea.....

Are we doing things on the cheap? How can PB complain about how depressing fees are etc and then let our most creative player leave on LOAN?

As for new players it is getting to a stage that if people think that the squad will dramatically improve over night with the kids now playing I feel we are being a little naive.. PL players are expensive and we seem to be falling behind in this matter at the moment...things need to start happening quickly..

We really do need a CM who is a CLEAR improvement on what we have. We also need a RB who is at least decent backup to Montoya but preferably better at defending. That's the absolute bare minimum. A striker would be great too.
Looks like Alzate will be the only yoof featuring tomorrow, so it's not like we have any great hope in the kids filling the gaps either.

Interesting few weeks coming up......

 

[vagabond]

Absolutely disgusted with this deal.. if the details released are true.

There has to be more to it. There just has to be.

1) Do we need to sell? No, we’re in our 3rd season as a lucrative PL club, we don’t need to raise funds?

2) so the offer has to be ‘snap your hand off’ worthy. 10m in today’s market is a complete joke.

3) does he still have something to offer our squad? 100% yes!! Knockeart has and always will be a maverick, game changing talent. We don’t have many of those.

4) has he underperformed? Arguably yes, but that applies to all our attacking players except Murray.

I assumed all players would get a shot under Potter and had quiet hopes Knocky would flourish under his more flowing offensive style.

There has to be more then meets the eye. A falling out. Something.

Absolutely cracking deal for Fulham.


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[Nixonator]

It doesn't work like that.....after Trussard and to conform with Ftp we've probably got not much more than 20m left... that's a striker and nothing else.... and we've just spent 1m with add on on Richards....

Would love to proven wrong with data however...


... and then there's only having 25 players over 21....

No, it really does work like that.

We are in the green as it stands, having spent the best part of 60M each PL season.

This summer is no different and we are yet spent spend anywhere near 60M, in fact with this deal done we are nearing break even on ins and outs.

We could spend more than 60M and still be in the green.

 

[vagabond]

Why shouldn't March go? If it hasn't worked out for AK then which attackers has it worked out for!?!

EXACTLY.

Something odd is going on here. It just doesn’t add up.


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[the right footed denilson]

No, it really does work like that.

We are in the green as it stands, having spent the best part of 60M each PL season.

This summer is no different yet we are yet spent spend anywhere near 60M, in fact with this deal done we are nearing break even on ins and outs.

We could spend more than 60M and still be in the green.

Especially as we're selling Dunk.

 

[Weststander]

It doesn't work like that.....after Trussard and to conform with Ftp we've probably got not much more than 20m left... that's a striker and nothing else.... and we've just spent 1m with add on on Richards....

Would love to proven wrong with data however...


... and then there's only having 25 players over 21....

It doesn’t work like that.

@El Pres confirmed earlier in this window, when I asked, that our transfer fee budget is at least equal to last summer’s. With only £17m spent so far, we have £43m plus the money from AK’s sale to spend on further fees alone.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I know this wasn’t aimed at me. But I’m going to go with incompetence.

Look at recent signings, then look at our gaps, and then look at what are we doing to fill those gaps. Not great, is it? We are poor at the business of finding, keeping and motivating talent.

Thanks for that. OK...

Finding....not relevant here
Keeping....well I'd say we have been keeping what we have very well. Sad to see Ulloa go but can't recall any other recent fails. I exclude AK....as it isn't a continuation of a pattern.
Motivating....ah, yes indeed. Perhaps if we get rid of Hughton......oh

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

It doesn’t work like that.

@El Pres confirmed earlier in this window, when I asked, that our transfer fee budget is at least equal to last summer’s. With only £17m spent so far, we have £43m plus the money from AK’s sale to spend on further fees alone.

Hope you're right..... so 53m in the kitty approx..... let's see how far that goes....

 

[Nixonator]

Hope you're right..... so 53m in the kitty approx..... let's see how far that goes....

At least

Then factor in potential Dunk fee, though I doubt he will be leaving.

 

[Stat Brother]

Hope you're right..... so 53m in the kitty approx..... let's see how far that goes....

We could outbid Arsenal, buy Tumble and still have £12,999,999 in the bank.

 

[Weststander]

Hope you're right..... so 53m in the kitty approx..... let's see how far that goes....

If TB spends it, I hope.

If we fight a solitary battle against market forces and refuse to pay what the competition is spending, we’ll be more than likely looking at Championship football in August 2020.

Shirley TB won’t throw away the PL cash cow, that makes this club financially viable.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Lot of over reaction on here tonight about a player who has continually flattered to deceive at PL level and cannot adapt his style to the demands needed. At Championship level, he can get away with his extravagant over-playing and regular mistakes. On the highest stage, he veers between occasional moments of brilliance and being a liability. His recklessness v Bournemouth was staggeringly poor.

He cannot defend for toffee and always seems capable of a critical mistake at the worst of times. Opening day at Watford, just after HT, loses the ball on the edge of his own box, result goal as we are trying to get back into the game. Away at City, half an hour in, doing ok. Knocky, in their half, turns and plays the ball without looking. Result, goal. Away at Chelsea, 30 minutes in, doing ok, stands off Chelsea player, allowing low cross to near post. Result, goal. Just a few moments in a catalogue of Knocky errors. Throw in hissy fits, flouncing, constant diving and other issues and you get the package. A player constantly frustrated that he fails to deliver what he regularly served up in the Championship.

Leicester got rid of him because they didn't consider him consistent enough for the PL. We are doing the same.

 

[Nixonator]

Lot of over reaction on here tonight about a player who has continually flattered to deceive at PL level and cannot adapt his style to the demands needed. At Championship level, he can get away with his extravagant over-playing and regular mistakes. On the highest stage, he veers between occasional moments of brilliance and being a liability. His recklessness v Bournemouth was staggeringly poor.
He cannot defend for toffee and always seems capable of a critical mistake at the worst of times. Opening day at Watford, just after HT, loses the ball on the edge of his own box, result goal as we are trying to get back into the game. Away at City, half an hour in, doing ok. Knocky, in their half, turns and plays the ball without looking. Result, goal. Away at Chelsea, 30 minutes in, doing ok, stands off Chelsea player, allowing low cross to near post. Result, goal. Just a few moments in a catalogue of Knocky errors. Throw in hissy fits, flouncing, constant diving and other issues and you get the package. A player constantly frustrated that he fails to deliver what he regularly served up in the Championship.
Leicester got rid of him because they didn't consider him consistent enough for the PL. We are doing the same.

Interesting that you reel off more errors from memory than our other wingers, besides March, conjured up in moments of merit the entire season.

He's made mistakes, but at least you can countenance them with at least as many assists and moments of brilliance.

I'm curious to know if your opinion is as scathing of our other wingers, who each make as many mistakes minus the red mist.

 

[Farehamseagull]

Knocky to Fulham?

Makes sense, good move for him and the club.

As legendary as these players will always be to us, it’s time to move on from the players who are not quite good enough for us anymore. Stephens and Murray next.

 

[Nixonator]

Makes sense, good move for him and the club.

As legendary as these players will always be to us, it’s time to move on from the players who are not quite good enough for us anymore. Stephens and Murray next.

Sure why not.

Throw away most of our goals and our spine along with our assists.

We already offed a capable manager so it'll just be our solidity at the back left (Dunk) to oust for a full house.

 

[Farehamseagull]

Sure why not.

Throw away most of our goals and our spine along with our assists.

We already offed a capable manager so it'll just be our solidity at the back left (Dunk) to oust for a full house.

Why Dunk? He’s a quality premier league performer. Stephens, Knocky and Hughton are not and Murray is now too old. Time to move on.

 

[banjo]

 

[GT49er]

This. O wise old one

edit: Dean Saunders was a bit bollocks.

And Kurt Nogan.

Don't talk to me about the Saunders transfer saga. Bloody Oxford United. Bloody Robert (big fat crook) Maxwell.

 

[Nixonator]

Why Dunk? He’s a quality premier league performer. Stephens, Knocky and Hughton are not and Murray is now too old. Time to move on.

You're going to be in for a real shock when both of them start our first game.

 

[macbeth]

Lot of over reaction on here tonight about a player who has continually flattered to deceive at PL level and cannot adapt his style to the demands needed. At Championship level, he can get away with his extravagant over-playing and regular mistakes. On the highest stage, he veers between occasional moments of brilliance and being a liability. His recklessness v Bournemouth was staggeringly poor.

He cannot defend for toffee and always seems capable of a critical mistake at the worst of times. Opening day at Watford, just after HT, loses the ball on the edge of his own box, result goal as we are trying to get back into the game. Away at City, half an hour in, doing ok. Knocky, in their half, turns and plays the ball without looking. Result, goal. Away at Chelsea, 30 minutes in, doing ok, stands off Chelsea player, allowing low cross to near post. Result, goal. Just a few moments in a catalogue of Knocky errors. Throw in hissy fits, flouncing, constant diving and other issues and you get the package. A player constantly frustrated that he fails to deliver what he regularly served up in the Championship.

Leicester got rid of him because they didn't consider him consistent enough for the PL. We are doing the same.

Whilst I agree with most of that, that last paragraph isn't actually true, they offered him a new deal but he rejected it due to lack of game time presumably.