[Misc] Kids being sent home from school

[vegster]

Yeah during PE we played rugby and the nutcase teacher went in studs showing opening up my shin, I hobbled back to the changing room while the nutcase continued living out his fantasy. The deputy head saw me and drove me hospital and waited while I had stitches then dropped me home, although not an MG Midget but jealous I got a ride in a Brown Princess, with gold trimming !!

We had a proper Welshman on our school staff and he was absolutely crackers about " Warming Up " before playing Rugby, it took half the double games period to warm up before playing. Ridiculous.....

One time we had major building work at the school and they made a temporary road alongside the football pitches for the builders lorries. Not much of a road, just a 4" layer of Flint pieces so the lorries didn't sink in the mud. One day while playing right back I made an excellent sliding tackle to put the ball out but went straight over a Flint which gave me a 2" by 1" flap of loose skin filled with mud. Took hours to clean the mud and blood out.

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

Loose Women

 

[vegster]

What goes on in your head, you honestly think schools are due to go 4 day weeks, really.

Just look it up.

 

[BigGully]

Wasn't there a 3 day week once upon a time

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I cannot recall having a 3 day week as a pupil even when our economy was a basket case.

 

[BigGully]

Just look it up.

What, you want me to look up imminent 4 day working week for schools in 2018, you're having a laugh.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

@BigGully wading into yet another discussion with absolutely no idea what he’s talking about and his usual loose grasp of English.

The pertinent word used by @Vegster was looking, not due or imminent. And a quick Google reveals plenty of cases all across the country. You really are a moron.

 

[vegster]

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@BigGully wading into yet another discussion with absolutely no idea what he’s talking about and his usual loose grasp of English.

The pertinent word used by @Vegster was looking, not due or imminent. And a quick Google reveals plenty of cases all across the country. You really are a moron.

Thank you HT. My worry is that if BigGully was going through the school system currently, teachers would have to somehow lift him to a standard of education far above what he has actually achieved but on a much reduced budget.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

school policy I am afraid.

schools are so paranoid as parents are now becoming litigious that any little scrape or bump has to have a signed accident sheet, a interview and a medical form sent home with the child to say they have been looked at and assessed.

can you imagine how many times little kids fall over and bump their heads, arms etc....every one has to be logged and assessed....in fact a brilliant one is every child has to be in eyeline of a supervisor /teacher when out in the playground, so some schools have had to rope off trees and sheds and supervisors have to stand at a spot where they can see every part of the playground.....

nanny state doesn't even cover the bollocks we have to do

My son, who was working as a classroom assistant at a special needs school was SACKED along with his colleague when a child ran away from a teacher and my son and his colleage did not intervene because they did not SEE the incident because they were dealing with another child at the time. Well, not sacked, but bullied into resigning. Without a union rep present. Fortunately he now has a much nicer and better paid job that invoves an hour less travel every day.

In the higher education sector, I act as personal tutor for undrgrads. On of my charges is a bit depressed because he has no friends. With no training, I am expcted to rally round and ensure he is getting the right help (which basically involves him, er, seeking help). But if it goes a bit tits-up in any way, it will be me who gets it in the neck.

No proper plan, no proper process, just a load of arse covering. But it is largely 'our' fault (the parents and, as they get a bit older, the students) for engaging with the US mindset of suing anyone who it may be possible to screw some money off, and not facing up to our own responsibilities. Yes, if a lunatic pupil with a sharp knife runs amock in a playground, sue. If your kid pokes himself in the face with a blunt pencil, tell him/her to be a bit more careful next time, surely?

But....it is all too late now, I suspect.

ps if anyone rebukes me for this post I may get depressed, and if I do I may sue Bozza.

 

[BigGully]

@BigGully wading into yet another discussion with absolutely no idea what he’s talking about and his usual loose grasp of English.

The pertinent word used by @Vegster was looking, not due or imminent. And a quick Google reveals plenty of cases all across the country. You really are a moron.

Load of bollocks, a few political motivated teachers saying they are running out of money, they are not and they wont.

 

[BigGully]

Thank you HT. My worry is that if BigGully was going through the school system currently, teachers would have to somehow lift him to a standard of education far above what he has actually achieved but on a much reduced budget.

Says the grim reaper ................

 

[Hastings gull]

@BigGully wading into yet another discussion with absolutely no idea what he’s talking about and his usual loose grasp of English.

The pertinent word used by @Vegster was looking, not due or imminent. And a quick Google reveals plenty of cases all across the country. You really are a moron.

Has you google search found anyone who has actually reverted to a 4 day week? Anyone can say they are looking to do it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Has you google search found anyone who has actually reverted to a 4 day week? Anyone can say they are looking to do it.

I’ve not Googled reverting because no one made such a statement.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Load of bollocks,l

You’ve become a parody of yourself.

 

[Hastings gull]

My son was sent home from school "ill" today despite the fact that, as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with him other than possibly being a bit tired and jaded after some late nights over the Christmas holiday.

This isn't the first time this has happened. Schools bang on about attendance and the importance of being in school, something we completely agree with, and yet they send him home at the slightest indication he could be less than 100%.

We've never taken him out of school for holidays, and don't believe we ever will (I'm not judging if you do - everyone makes their own choices), so it grates somewhat the school have this seemingly relaxed approach to sending kids home. Perhaps parents should be able to fine schools for non-approved sending home.

I appreciate this is all a bit Mumsnet but it's wound me up a bit.

I can fully appreciate that this would be very irritating, but do please try and look at the matter from the school's angle. Your lad might have been ill, and his illness may have been contagious, causing other children to then miss school. As a parent, you would not be happy, if your lad had caught something from a child, who had been at school and should not have been. If school attendance is to come into the equation, then many children's absence would really lower the percentage! In this case, judging from what you say, and I trust you totally to give an accurate picture!, it would seem a bit OTT, but schools simply dare not take the chance -had he really been ill, and kept at school, you would have been very cross, and of course some parents will happily see their chance to sue for a few bob -not suggesting for one moment you would, by the way. Annoying for you -yes, it is, but schools do have this dilemma of "do they or don't they."

 

[BigGully]

You’ve become a parody of yourself.

You seem to have decided Vegster didnt imply a 4 day week is imminenet, you do talk aboslute rubbish, why doesnt our resident grim reaper @Vegster come and clear this up, what exactly did he mean ??

 

[Giraffe]

Whilst not having experienced a similar issue to this I do feel the pain of schools not really operating in the real world. It’s especially bad in primary/middle schools where dare I say it a lot of schools are predominantly female staff who seem to have little or no concept of what a working dad or the real world has to deal with. I was lucky to have a great deal of flexibility in my working hours when my kids were younger but otherwise I’d have been buggered by the inefficiency of their schools to communicate and give proper notice of schools events etc. They are so geared to dealing with mums it’s ridiculous.

As for the gender bias of the way they teach boys v the way they teach girls, don’t even get me started. The whole primary system needs a shake up and a massive recruitment drive to get men into primary schools. Where is the positive discrimination recruitment policy here then to get to 50% male staff?!

 

[vegster]

Load of bollocks, a few political motivated teachers saying they are running out of money, they are not and they wont.

Oh dear....I'm afraid I can't explain simply enough for you to understand, Mrs V is a teacher. She was a specialist intervention teacher using a special system ( ECAR) using one to one teaching on a daily basis to get year one children who had fallen woefully behind in English the skills to catch up. In April 2017 the only way the school could keep her on would be if she went back to whole class teaching in a job share with another teacher, the other teacher lasted a month before her son became gravely ill which required her to go on long term absence. She has ploughed on and worked herself in to the ground since.
She has been told that despite her hard work they may have to replace her with a NQT as due to her experience and pay grade they don't think they can afford to keep her. Just before Christmas, the staff were told that the Water Cooler in the staff room had to go as they could not afford it.

I feel sorry for your kids if they are school age BigGully. Oh, forgot to mention they have been on a pay freeze/ 1% rise regime for about 6 years too. Welcome to the future.

 

[BigGully]

Oh dear....I'm afraid I can't explain simply enough for you to understand, Mrs V is a teacher. She was a specialist intervention teacher using a special system ( ECAR) using one to one teaching on a daily basis to get year one children who had fallen woefully behind in English the skills to catch up. In April 2017 the only way the school could keep her on would be if she went back to whole class teaching in a job share with another teacher, the other teacher lasted a month before her son became gravely ill which required her to go on long term absence. She has ploughed on and worked herself in to the ground since.
She has been told that despite her hard work they may have to replace her with a NQT as due to her experience and pay grade they don't think they can afford to keep her. Just before Christmas, the staff were told that the Water Cooler in the staff room had to go as they could not afford it.

I feel sorry for your kids if they are school age BigGully. Oh, forgot to mention they have been on a pay freeze/ 1% rise regime for about 6 years too. Welcome to the future.

Waffle, you couldn't bring yourself to say what you said .....

Now try again its simple do you think it is likely our education system will fail to the point of reverting to a 4 day week, why have you suddenly lost your nerve, grow some and answer.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

You seem to have decided Vegster didnt imply a 4 day week is imminenet, you do talk aboslute rubbish, why doesnt our resident grim reaper @Vegster come and clear this up, what exactly did he mean ??

What did he mean? Let’s look at the sentence again.

due to cuts many schools are looking at 4 day weeks.

Seems unambiguous to me. How on earth did you interpret this simple sentence, and the word looking, to suggest schools are “due” or “imminent”? There really isn’t any room for misinterpretation...unless you don’t have a good grasp of English and/or are stupid.

 

[vegster]

Waffle, you couldn't bring yourself to say what you said .....

Now try again its simple do you think it is likely our education system will fail to the point of reverting to a 4 day week, why have you suddenly lost your nerve, grow some and answer.

There is a slow decline in funding which will lead to ever more ways of cutting costs. Schools are seriously looking at merging classes and 4 day weeks. In 15 years time you might well find that you, BigGully, are considerably better educated than those leaving school... Now that's what I call frightening.