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Kevin Piertersen - What do NSC make of the guy?

What does NSC think of KP?

  • Liability - Dressing room morale nightmare

    Votes: 36 62.1%
  • Irreplaceable - Match winning flair player must play

    Votes: 13 22.4%
  • Sitting on the little white fence by the boundary rope

    Votes: 9 15.5%

  • Total voters
    58


Muhammad - I’m hard - Bruce Lee

You can't change fighters
NSC Patron
Jul 25, 2005
10,984
on a pig farm
For sure....on his day the most talented cricketer around . But HE cannot pull the strings ! Lets hope that he comes back into the fold...but under the rules of the governing body !
if playing for England means as much to him as he says it does in that interview, i think* he might





*hope
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
32,295
Uffern
I actually feel he's been treated pretty harshly here. His tag as being a drssing room nightmare goes back to the Peter Moores fiasco. At the time I thought he was totally out of order, though history may treat it a bit differently. Without doubt Flower is a better coach than Moores.

The trouble with that theory is that Pietersen had a history of dissent well before Moores came on the scene. He walked out of KwaZulu Natal so that he could earn money in England. He was so unpopular when he played for Notts that his kit ended up being tipped over the balcony.

He's a brilliant batsman but must be a nightmare to manage - the ECB have done the right thing. You can't have players undermining the captain.

I'd also take issue with the idea that Flower is "without doubt" a better coach than Moores. Flower took over a team that was, generally, used to winning and with a good system in place. Moores took a team of hopeless losers and turned them into county champions and a dominant one-day side. He then moved to another county and took them to the first championship for 80 years. I'm not sure that you could say one coach is better than the other, they both have strengths and weaknesses.
 


pauli cee

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2009
2,367
worthing
bumped into him a few times on tour, (once literally), and has always come across as a complete ****, great cricketer tho. will sit on the fence, whilst sllightly swaying to the side of him being a disruptive influence within the england (and wales), (and SA), team)...
 




jakarta

Well-known member
May 25, 2007
16,005
Sullington
As I posted on the Sussex CCC Messageboard a brilliant batsman (some of the time) and an egotistical clown (all of the time) who decided to pick a fight which he could not win with the ECB.

All good in the end - he can make lots of money with the Chennai Chapatis and England can play Test Cricket without a disruptive presence in the dressing room.

Thanks for the knock at the Oval in 2005 otherwise :wave:
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,711
Living In a Box
It all went down hill when he was appointed captain, he is not bigger than the team even though he thinks he is
 




Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827
Nasty piece of work. ask Mr Moores!
 




Dave the OAP

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
47,270
at home
so he was texting the south african team calling them not nice things....mmmmm
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
7,679
Just far enough away from LDC
This is a situation not helped by very few people actually telling him what he needs to hear rather than what he wants to hear.

When you have Piers Morgan and Darren Gough defending him on twitter from what any normal person can see is abnormal behaviour e.g. slagging off your captain and team mates to the opposition during the match, then you can understand why he's so out of touch with reality.

Apparently Matt Prior is the player that talked to him at length to try and resolve things. I don't doubt that Matt was honest with him and was simply trying to get him back in the fold for the good of the team. Sadly it didn't make a difference.
 






1901Phil

Member
Feb 1, 2012
97
Tunbridge Wells
As I have purchased tickets for the first three days of the third test for a combined cost of £285 I am not best pleased that our most entertaining batsman is not playing. In his defence it would seem that the ECB has been looking for an opportunity to bring him down a peg or two starting with fining him for tweeting a comment about Nick Knight. It seems commentators can say a cricketer is crap but a player cannot make a similar judgement on a commentator. Must be the power of Sky's cheque book.
 


Gritt23

New member
Jul 7, 2003
14,902
Meopham, Kent.
Destructive ..... both as a batsman and a dressing room influence.
 










Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,929
Worthing
He has caused problems wherever he has been and I still find it incredible that he was ever given the chance to captain England. He is a self centred twat.......actually it is worse than that, he is a South African self centred twat.
 


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