[Football] Keepers going down

[GT49er]

That's ridiculous. If Bart was seriously injured and had to go off and we conceded whilst he was off, you'd be happy with that? Thought not!!

Are there any circumstances where you'd actually be happy conceding a goal anyway?

 

[Driver 8]

When the keeper hasn’t been involved in play for about ten minutes, as was the case yesterday, the ref should just ignore it it’s obviously fake. He would soon get up again.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I’m confused.

I thought Pope was dead and Roma was singing St Louis Cardinals keeper to replace him.

I didn’t realise he had risen from the dead, I thought that was Gabriel Jesus.

You're thinking of Billy Sharp.

Back to Pope, it's something he does most games, either when they're winning but under pressure, so as to break up the opponents' rhythm, or when they're losing and need a little tactical chat from Eddie Howe to change things. Probably a Tindall idea, I'd imagine. You know it's fake because the sub keeper never ever bothers to get up and jog down the touchline, "just in case".

Wolves and Arsenal are the other main proponents of this tactic, although having watched Arteta's side pass the ball around sideways to minimal effect for 90 minutes against Bournemouth the other day, you can't imagine having to listen to any more of his instructions would be particularly productive.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

I call it the Djokovic. He does/did it all the time in big tennis matches. If he's struggling in a set/match he suddenly gets injured and needs to go off court to get treatment for a few minutes. 99% of the time he comes back miraculously fit and healthy and good to carry on while his opponent has got cold and lost momentum. It's snide.

I'm quite happy to see it taken out of football and @Easy 10's suggestion is as good as any to stamp it out.

 

[Madafwo]

I think I suggested something similar when talking about fake head injuries to slow the game down/stop an attack.

Independent physio/doctor to assess the player, if it's discovered there's naff all wrong with them then it's full injured racehorse time. Tent around them, shotgun to the temple, off the pitch they go.

That's guaranteed to stop it.

 

[Dave the hatosaurus]

I call it the Djokovic. He does/did it all the time in big tennis matches. If he's struggling in a set/match he suddenly gets injured and needs to go off court to get treatment for a few minutes. 99% of the time he comes back miraculously fit and healthy and good to carry on while his opponent has got cold and lost momentum. It's snide.

I'm quite happy to see it taken out of football and @Easy 10's suggestion is as good as any to stamp it out.

As it is the rule about the keeper not having to leave the pitch after treatment that is being abused in this way my suggestion would be to amend that by the following.
If the keeper goes down injured and has to have treatment his place on the sideline would have to be taken by another outfield player, that player to be nominated by the captain of the opposition!

 

[Morvangull]

I think, with supposed head injuries the player should have to go off to be assessed and a substitution made, either temporary or permanent. This would, hopefully stop 'pretend' head trauma.

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

It was another moment of complete incompetence from the referee and fourth official.

 

[dsr-burnley]

One option - the manager isn't allowed to come onto the pitch and the players aren't allowed to go off. So when Newcastle are having their little conference, what's to stop you sending one or two of your biggest and hardest men to stand in front of Howe and listen to what he's saying?

 

[portlock seagull]

That's ridiculous. If Bart was seriously injured and had to go off and we conceded whilst he was off, you'd be happy with that? Thought not!!

Don't make things worse by trying to fix a simple problem.

It really isn’t. The chances are ridiculously small, and any injury that bad would be blown up to stop the game anyhow. The what iffery you’re banging on about is limitless and you’re only solution is carry on as we are. Brilliant.

 

[Machiavelli]

The thing is, keepers DO sometimes get genuinely injured. You can't punish a team for that.
As ever, cheating players have created this conundrum.

Ahem, managers.

 

[Machiavelli]

Yet ANOTHER lengthy timeout today, instigated by a goalkeeper with a totally fictional injury. Pope drops down clutching a leg, having not even been involved in anything in the preceding minutes. This is the cue for Smug Pneumonic Eddie to gather his troops at the sideline for a little pep-talk for a few minutes, whilst his keeper receives "treatment".

This is a DELIBERATE tactic to snide the rules. It breaks up play, it breaks up momentum when a team is getting up a head of steam, and it needs to stop. We don't have timeouts in football. Except now we do, with this blatant shithousery when the likes of lung-boy feel like tactically stopping the game for a few minutes. The game obviously cannot continue when the keeper is down receiving "treatment", and this is now being abused. So what to do ? Here is MY solution.

If your keeper goes down in need of treatment, the game stops, as per usual. However, every player from both teams must gather in the centre circle until the stoppage has finished. Managers stay in their technical areas. Never mind water-breaks. Never mind pep-talks. All players are confined to the centre circle until the keeper has had his treatment. Once the trainer is off, the game recommences.

It needs dealing with, and I believe this is the solution. Any other ideas ? Bueller ?

I like this suggestion. Even better if the team whose keeper has gone down have to go to the centre circle, whereas the oppo don't and can take on refreshment/instruction.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Maybe if the keeper goes down injured (not as a result of a foul), the rule should be that the sub keeper has to replace him immediately for a set period of time, say, 10 minutes like with a rugby sin bin. No warm up time, just on you go.

At least it might make the teams with really bad second choice keepers think twice, and potentially might make the likes of Pope and Martinez reconsider whether they wanted to spend ten minutes getting cold on the bench, or give a bloke they regard themselves as superior to the chance to shine.

 

[albionalex]

Not a perfect solution but if the keeper goes down injured and needs treatment, an outfield player has to go off.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Not a perfect solution but if the keeper goes down injured and needs treatment, an outfield player has to go off.

...and the opposing fans get to vote for which outfield player it is.

 

[Triggaaar]

As many of you will know, my wife's a keeper.

Edit - sorry, wrong thread