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Juventus - New Stadium Capacity ? Suprising
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pasty
A different kind of pasty
And because I'm nice, I've dug it out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/3473712/Five-things-the-English-Premier-League-can-learn-from-the-German-Bundesliga-Football.html
Five things the Premier League could learn from the Bundesliga
Winter break
Germany has a smaller league and one less cup competition, allowing the players a winter break of around six weeks. It means they are fresher and less likely to be injured for summer tournaments. The international team, who have reached the semi-finals or better in 15 out of 22 major tournaments since 1966, appear to have been reaping the benefit.
Pricing
Borussia Monchengladbach is typical of the ticket pricing system across Germany, where no ticket costs more than €40 (£34) and the lowest priced tickets are €8.50 (£7.00) for adults. Under-16s can also buy tickets for as little as €5 (£4). Adult season tickets start at €120 (£95), while the cost of a programme for Saturday's match against Bayern Munich was €1(0.80p).
Financial prudence
Bundesliga clubs have much lower revenues but, according to Deloitte, still recorded a combined operating profit of £210million almost twice the level for Premier League clubs in 2006-7. This was largely because clubs spend an average of 45 per cent of their turnovers on wages compared with 63 per cent in the Premier League. To many analysts, it is a more sustainable ratio, although the difficulty of attracting the world's best players is obvious.
Firm broadcast restrictions
At present, one Bundesliga match is played on a Friday night and two on a Sunday with the other 12 teams kicking off at 3.30pm on a Saturday. The German competition commission recently ruled out a proposed TV deal because it threatened Sportschau, the Saturday free-to-air highlights show.
Of England, Bernhard Heitzer, president of the commission, said. "The results of their national team in the big competitions don't seem to have been helped by the blessings of high pay-TV income."
Safe standing
There have been various campaigns in England for the return of terraces after all-seater stadiums became compulsory in the top two divisions in the aftermath of the Hillsborough tragedy, with surveys suggesting that as many as 90 per cent of fans would like the option to stand. The 'safe standing' areas in the Bundesliga are regarded as the main reason for what are arguably the best football atmospheres across Europe.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
The average price paid for a ticket to watch Juventus at home this season is about €23, say £18.50.
SI 4 BHA
Active member
Was at the Mestalla on Saturday night, Valencia V Sporting Gijon - Sat up in the gods, but only €20 each! Crackin match, absolute bargain. Valencia also building a new stadium, looks amazing, no idea how to add a picture, perhaps one of you can find one and post it up.
turienzo's lovechild
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- Oct 25, 2003
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i've never understood why the fact that germany is the biggest country in europe never get's mentioned when discussing reasons as to why it has the highest attendances in europe
anyway, i read somewhere that german clubs are seeing really high profits, because they spend a very small % of their turnover on wages compared with the other 3 leagues......which could explain why their teams have done sweet f*** all in europe for a fair while
pasty
A different kind of pasty
turienzo's lovechild
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- Oct 25, 2003
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Would that be 3 posts up you read that?
Sorry, couldn't resist
it was probably in that article, but not on that post
too LONG
Gritt23
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It's not just Germany. I read an article a couple of years ago about ticket pricing across Europe and we really are rip-off Britain. At the time, the cheapest season ticket at Juve was about £120!!! Seriously.
Slough Seagull
Bye Bye Slough
- Nov 23, 2006
- 743
true - friend of mine who is a Juve seson ticket holder was paying less to watch Juventus than a season ticket at Slough Town!
otk
~(.)(.)~
Just to broaden the discussion to include our three lower divisions, along the lines of while watching The Championship programme on a Sunday morning, it amazes me to see that most of the matches seem to be played in half-empty (half-full?) stadiums. Also, on a Saturday night, watching MOTD, a game like Wigan v. Fulham has the same scenario.
I think people are going to the pub at Saturday lunchtime to watch football and probably staying there till the 5.30pm. Setanta game and the same again on a Sunday
I think the stats are that live football attendances are increasing, which might mean that a down-turn has plateaued and they're on the up?
I think people are going to the pub at Saturday lunchtime to watch football and probably staying there till the 5.30pm. Setanta game and the same again on a Sunday
I think the stats are that live football attendances are increasing, which might mean that a down-turn has plateaued and they're on the up?
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Attendances for home games in Serie A this season (all played at the Stadio Olimpico, capacity 27,500):-
Code:
Udinese 20,320
Catania 22,053
Palermo 22,495
Torino 22,114
Roma 21,700
Genoa 24,463
You can't book the terrace tickets in advance and we didn't want to take the chance.
From the article now published on here, we seem to have almost the most expensive seats!
Bluejuice
Lazy as a rug on Valium
house your seagull
Train à Grande Vitesse
went to see st. pauli last friday, they are 7th or 8th in bundesliga 2, the ticket cost 25 euros - in the ground the beers (and yeah ok, at least we could get them) were 3.50 euro for less than a pint. with the strength of the euro it wsn't that cheap - the reason teams like hertha can offer cheap tickets is because their ground holds near 75,000.
the match was amazing and the experience was worth every penny though, they do do football so much better in germany.
Market Porter
Or The Globe
Italians love their football, they just can't be bothered to travel all the way from Sardinia and Sicily to the Delle Apli to watch it!
Storer68
New member
they said all that about the stadio delle alpi.
amd they hate it more than we hat withdean
just about as soul-less an atmospeher tho
Yoda
English & European
Ed might be able to correct me but I'm sure Milan selling season tickets at something stupid like €30.00 for this season.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
That's possibly because Turin is nearer to BRIGHTON than PALERMO.
977.28 miles from Palermo
790.38 miles from Brighton
Lord Bracknell
On fire
The cheapest adult price I can see is €130 - say £105 - for 18 games.