[Albion] Joao Pedro, Where next?

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Barham's tash

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And from that incident some have decided he’s dickhead who needs kicked out the club :facepalm:
You must have been living under a ROCK to not know whats been announced about this so far but here's a summary:

  1. Recently flouncy/aggressive FWD JP [see actual v near red cards in games] was believed to be the aggressor in a training ground incident involving JPVH
  2. Various rumours circulated that senior pros Dunk and Webster told JP to jog on and grow up
  3. FH announced in the pre match presser that JP was unavailable
  4. FH then forced to announce in the Wolves pre match presser that JP remainined unavailable due to an incident typical at many clubs but that it was dealt with. FH mentioned he has certain behavioural standards (not being a dick) that JP failed to meet (by being a dick) and has therefore been removed from the squad to reflect on his future behaviour.
I mean i'm not sure how you can't conclude that he's been a bit of dickhead from this and suggested that he either shape up or ship out.
 






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That's funny. I mentioned it and my cat gave a knowing look.

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Kalimantan Gull

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You must have been living under a ROCK to not know whats been announced about this so far but here's a summary:

  1. Recently flouncy/aggressive FWD JP [see actual v near red cards in games] was believed to be the aggressor in a training ground incident involving JPVH
  2. Various rumours circulated that senior pros Dunk and Webster told JP to jog on and grow up
  3. FH announced in the pre match presser that JP was unavailable
  4. FH then forced to announce in the Wolves pre match presser that JP remainined unavailable due to an incident typical at many clubs but that it was dealt with. FH mentioned he has certain behavioural standards (not being a dick) that JP failed to meet (by being a dick) and has therefore been removed from the squad to reflect on his future behaviour.
I mean i'm not sure how you can't conclude that he's been a bit of dickhead from this and suggested that he either shape up or ship out.
maybe, but you have missed some bits. The club announced pre Liverpool that he was missing for 'personal reasons' and it was confirmed to a few people on here off the record, like Bozza, that these were genuine 'personal reasons'. Also that prior to his recent aggressive behaviour he was an incredibly hard-working team player who was deemed suitable to captain us.

The evidence does fit the theory that he is being a dickhead, but I think it also fits the theory that he's having mental health issues perhaps related to something in his private life, that he's been acting emotionally as a result and is now being given time away from work to try and sort it out.

and of course, if my theory is right, we're unlikely to ever find out
 










Hugo Rune

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The obvious one for me is Newcastle, they need strength in depth and don’t have a player like him. Champions league will be a big draw for them.
I've heard about a £250m warchest.

They were hours from signing him before, he is very well regarded up in those parts.

I'm hoping that there is just enough interest from other clubs to make sure they pay a big whack as we seem to want to spend at least half of his fee on the young Greek.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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maybe, but you have missed some bits. The club announced pre Liverpool that he was missing for 'personal reasons' and it was confirmed to a few people on here off the record, like Bozza, that these were genuine 'personal reasons'. Also that prior to his recent aggressive behaviour he was an incredibly hard-working team player who was deemed suitable to captain us.

The evidence does fit the theory that he is being a dickhead, but I think it also fits the theory that he's having mental health issues perhaps related to something in his private life, that he's been acting emotionally as a result and is now being given time away from work to try and sort it out.

and of course, if my theory is right, we're unlikely to ever find out
Very interesting.
I'm no expert, albeit I'm no fool either....
He has always come across as not quite right in interviews.
I put it down to shyness and not brilliant English. However.
As you say we will never know.
I hope he's here next season. If he isn't, good luck to him.
 






Stumpy Tim

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People are being VERY harsh on Pedro without knowing the facts at all. Who knows what's going on in his personal life right now, who knows how the conversation with FH went? No one knows anything. I hope, if he does go, he gets the recognition he deserves. Despite what some people seem to think, he has never downed tools and has worked as hard as anyone on the pitch. Is he a petulant Brazilian? Yes. Does he work his socks off for the team. Also, yes.
 


dejavuatbtn

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I've heard about a £250m warchest.

They were hours from signing him before, he is very well regarded up in those parts.

I'm hoping that there is just enough interest from other clubs to make sure they pay a big whack as we seem to want to spend at least half of his fee on the young Greek.
I’m sure Chelsea will be able to out trump them.
 








Hotchilidog

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People are being VERY harsh on Pedro without knowing the facts at all. Who knows what's going on in his personal life right now, who knows how the conversation with FH went? No one knows anything. I hope, if he does go, he gets the recognition he deserves. Despite what some people seem to think, he has never downed tools and has worked as hard as anyone on the pitch. Is he a petulant Brazilian? Yes. Does he work his socks off for the team. Also, yes.
Agree. Pedro has been great for us, sad it seems to be ending this way but it does look like a deal would suit both parties so I expect the club to helpful in facilitating this move (for the right price).

If we get £60m for Pedro we could be raise another £40-£50m from the sale of various surplus to requirements players which would be a pretty tidy summer, especially as our targets are starting to get a little pricier these days.

The model will have survived another summer
 


Barham's tash

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maybe, but you have missed some bits. The club announced pre Liverpool that he was missing for 'personal reasons' and it was confirmed to a few people on here off the record, like Bozza, that these were genuine 'personal reasons'. Also that prior to his recent aggressive behaviour he was an incredibly hard-working team player who was deemed suitable to captain us.

The evidence does fit the theory that he is being a dickhead, but I think it also fits the theory that he's having mental health issues perhaps related to something in his private life, that he's been acting emotionally as a result and is now being given time away from work to try and sort it out.

and of course, if my theory is right, we're unlikely to ever find out
I genuinely think the Captain choice was a big whoopsy moment in this season - he had shown enough aggression [good for his game] but less so for captaincy IMO.

Ok, if he's genuinely going through something then fair play - we all suffer, some more than most, some less time than others and I am all for supporting this. And the LOA is a good thing.

However playing Devil's advocate here the unhelpful timing of Messrs Fabrizio and Florian revealing exclusives etc about his future [which for me can only have come from his camp] does make me suspect perhaps a bit of both is true.

FWIW my use of the phrase dickhead whilst pejorative is only done so in vernacular that resonates with the situation whereby footballers try and engineer moves not that he actually IS one perse.
 




Paulie Gualtieri

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My mate reckons he’s seen a few Brazilians in his time and reckons he’s shithouse

Anyone recall any reports of a sell on to Watford or whether we paid a release clause ourselves, negating this?

Don’t recall much other that unfortunate presentation vs Everton!
 




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