Jessie Lindgard... is a second loan spell possible

[Pavilionaire]

I'd like to see him back at the Albion but I'd be concerned that Man Utd would pressure the manager to start him all the time. CMS deserves a shot, and I'd like to see him partner Ulloa.

 

[Phat Baz 68]

Certainly became better the last quarter of his loan spell with us.
No way worth £7million !!
More like £2- £3 million certainly wouldn't pay anymore than the latter for him at all, if that.
Not Premier League material quite yet though.

 

[dazzer6666]

I watched that and the commentators, who I thought were fair, did kind of say that he couldn't buy a goal. Whereas you saw the difference in class with Nathan Redmond putting goals away with ease.

He has a good attitude, and like most forwards in global football is far better than Obika for example, but at 21, I can't see him ever being a regular scorer. Shirley that's a critical requirement if chronically low-scoring Albion, with a tight player wages/fees budget under FFP, needs goals in the team?

Agree with this. Got into some great positions, and there was some good link-up play from him, but in front of goal he wasn't great. Had 3/4 decent chances to score but either made a mistake or made the wrong decision each time - doesn't look like a natural goalscorer. Would I take him back on loan ? Yes, as long as we're not forced to start him every game. Got to be played central though, not wide.

 

[JCL666]

at 21, I can't see him ever being a regular scorer.

EVER? Really? He's 21.....

Look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickie_Lambert

Do you think Lambert is a regular scorer? When he was 21 his goals to game ratio was shocking.

 

[keaton]

What is so good about him?

I don't think he's awful (though he is an awful winger) but I wouln't be massively excited by us signing him for next season.

He's not much of a goalscorer, poor passer and pretty weak. What are his qualities that would excite you baring in mind he can play in one position (which with CMS and our current midfielders looks pretty congested)

 

[Giraffe]

Suspect he is the sort of player who looks very good in a good winning team, less so in an average team.

We have had a few of them over the years. CKR for starters.

Therefore think he will look better in a quality team. Would like to see him back next year.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

For me, personally, his decision making let him down.

Mainly, his decision to try and celebrate KLL's goal against Deby when we had already been humiliated. That was his worst one.

 

[Triggaaar]

I'd like to see him here again.

Certainly became better the last quarter of his loan spell with us.
No way worth £7million !!
More like £2- £3 million certainly wouldn't pay anymore than the latter for him at all, if that.

£2m! We just sold Barnes for £1m, with only 4 months of the season/contract left, and he's 3 years older than Lingard, not as good now, and nothing like the prospect that Lingard is. I'd want him for £3m in a heartbeat. Not sure about £7m, it all gets a bit silly when valuing the potential of a player, so you end up with a figure between how good he's likely to be and how good he could be.

 

[Seagull97]

Is like to have him back

 

[keaton]

I'd like to see him here again.
£2m! We just sold Barnes for £1m, with only 4 months of the season/contract left, and he's 3 years older than Lingard, not as good now, and nothing like the prospect that Lingard is. I'd want him for £3m in a heartbeat. Not sure about £7m, it all gets a bit silly when valuing the potential of a player, so you end up with a figure between how good he's likely to be and how good he could be.

I really can't see how you can say Lingaard is better than Barnes now.
In passing, shooting, tackling, holding the ball up, workrate, heading Barnes is superior. And he can do a job in a variety of positions.

 

[Seagull97]

I really can't see how you can say Lingaard is better than Barnes now.
In passing, shooting, tackling, holding the ball up, workrate, heading Barnes is superior. And he can do a job in a variety of positions.

They both have different strengths where as Barnes my have strength Lingard has pace and agility and also can pull of some smart passes and finishes so to say one is better is wrong as they are different

 

[keaton]

They both have different strengths where as Barnes my have strength Lingard has pace and agility and also can pull of some smart passes and finishes so to say one is better is wrong as they are different

He looks like he has pace, but he never really used it and hasn't sussed the whole running with the ball thing. There's also little point in having pace or making good runs if you look as unconfident as he does in 1-2-1 situations

 

[Weststander]

so both Upson and Greer will be going then...oh and i guess Leo neither of them have pace

Well, yes. Ulloa's chronic lack of pace and mobility, as well as being outfought by all centre-backs and wasting his abilities by falling over and berating officials - is a major problem for us in our attacking and counter-attacking, in that we are slow and very predictable for opposing defences.

Greer - a good passing CB and captain, but his lack of pace and diving in selling himself does create defensive problems for us, and with his age it's only going to get worse.

Upson however can get away from it with his generally great positional sense and he largely doesn't commit and get it wrong, unlike Greer.

 

[Phat Baz 68]

Our entire team falls to bits whenever Greer leaves the field or is out injured look at Charlton away look at Derby when he came off.
He may not be the actual football genius but he is a leader and has passion, anyone who says he is neither or either is a total fool.
We will be very hard pressed to replace our Captain.

 

[Triggaaar]

I really can't see how you can say Lingaard is better than Barnes now.
In passing, shooting, tackling, holding the ball up, workrate, heading Barnes is superior. And he can do a job in a variety of positions.

I don't think Barnes is better at shooting, Lingard doesn't need to hold the ball up as much, he's more likely to beat the opponents defence and get a shot off as he's got so much more pace. Workrate and tackling I agree with you, and same re variety of positions - but you don't need them to be able to do a variety of positions, you just need them to do one, and do it well. I think Lingard helped our team more than Barnes and I realise you disagree. No biggie.

 

[TheDuke]

Our entire team falls to bits whenever Greer leaves the field or is out injured look at Charlton away look at Derby when he came off.
He may not be the actual football genius but he is a leader and has passion, anyone who says he is neither or either is a total fool.
We will be very hard pressed to replace our Captain.

You are absolutely right. He may not be Rio but he has performed so well for Albion as their captain over the years. He gets a stupidly bad press here on NSC but I thank him wholeheartedly for all he's done for us. Obviously Blue and White through his Scottish veins and never does less than his best. I hope we get another cuppla of years out of our skipper and boll** to all his distractors

 

[jamie the seagull]

Wigan linked with Lingard......


http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/lingard-linked-with-wigan/

 

[Arthritic Toe]

Its bizarre how we can watch the same players in the same matches on the same pitch and see such different things. For me Lingard was not a patch on Barnes. Both had an indifferent scoring rate, but Barnes was streets ahead in terms of holding the ball up, bringing other players into the game and his general distribution. Lingard's passing was atrocious and he frequently gave the ball away in dangerous positions. Barnes was also a stronger presence in defence when it came to back-to-the-wall defending. Yes Lingard's young and may improve these weak areas - but on this season's showing - no thanks.

 

[B.W.]

I don't think Barnes is better at shooting, Lingard doesn't need to hold the ball up as much, he's more likely to beat the opponents defence and get a shot off as he's got so much more pace. Workrate and tackling I agree with you, and same re variety of positions - but you don't need them to be able to do a variety of positions, you just need them to do one, and do it well. I think Lingard helped our team more than Barnes and I realise you disagree. No biggie.

Spot on.

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Its bizarre how we can watch the same players in the same matches on the same pitch and see such different things. For me Lingard was not a patch on Barnes. Both had an indifferent scoring rate, but Barnes was streets ahead in terms of holding the ball up, bringing other players into the game and his general distribution. Lingard's passing was atrocious and he frequently gave the ball away in dangerous positions. Barnes was also a stronger presence in defence when it came to back-to-the-wall defending. Yes Lingard's young and may improve these weak areas - but on this season's showing - no thanks.

It's the same when a player goes from one team to another, look at Murray FFS!

Some players (unfair to say Torres) are brilliant at one club and play like me at another.