[Humour] It’s not for girls…

[Zeberdi]

That said, what is of that time stays in that time. If it was acceptable then, as was the culture, no-one has the right to issue post-judgement- because if they lived in the time, they would likely have been the same.

So there is nothing wrong with any of the adverts placed above. There is nothing wrong with the posters or the Yorkie add. It is just not something we do now- because now it is wrong. We have learnt a better way. I don't know why folk are clinging on…

I am categorically not bothered about stereotyping, it’s just unimaginative and limited thinking imo - the Yorkie ad is just boring.

I am also not offended by the 1950 poster ads or ‘clinging on’ to anything - I posted them as an example to show that times and culture have changed -it’s not about issuing ‘post-judgments’ that’s not why I posted the ads - ads that depict women as subservient (eg with men standing on their head or women kneeling at their feet with a tea tray) simply wouldn’t be acceptable now by contemporary western society you can’t possibly think otherwise?

Again - sorry to disagree with your comments with the other two images which are from 2009 and 2020 ( not a different era) The Bacardi ad and Prada display which I placed above were regarded as not acceptable at the time and still aren’t for a lot of people, which was my point. Personally I like the Prada figurines, and aren’t bothered by sexual stereotyping - I’m the least woke person there is! However they still still missed the mark on what is acceptable for many people now and as such were withdrawn. Cultures are constantly changing and often, people aren’t aware that something is offensive until it causes offence.

 

[sparkie]

Certainly don’t think it’s offensive other than being a brain dead, stereotyping, badly made ad (mildly funny in that some ad exec convinced Nestles (or was it Rowntree?) that spending thousands marketing their non-gender specific product as being only suitable for men or butch women was a good idea )

At least we’ve moved on from this
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Although still missing the mark decades later …

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Ps - there’s no poll option for ‘It’s harmless and it’s not funny’

 

[pure_white]

prefer CDM

 

[nicko31]

Sexist or not its just not very funny

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Culture wars threads always go the same way and end up in the same place.

Not seen it before and can't be arsed to watch it now.

Also available:

Love Thy Neighbour
The Steptoe film (on TV recently, with the hilarious black babies ).

Etc.

 

[dazzer6666]

I love yorkies (particularly the raisin and biscuit ones) and NEVER offer her any of it. The Ad lives on in our house,

 

[BadFish]

Saw this on FB the other day and it is part of a huge pattern of posts where people willingly pretend that their are a large group of people offended by this stuff. As usual what is missing is the people actually offended by it.

The world has moved on and this and, like so many hundreds of others would be out of place today. That is the way the world works we progress. It is really as simple as that. We don't accept the same things as 20 years ago.

I am becoming more and more convinced that the culture wars are being fought against ghosts. We see vast swathes of people referencing 'woke' and 'snowflakes' complaining and being offended by everything but I simply do not come across those people.

It feels to me like another attempt to divide us and stifle discussion about stuff. And people jump on board so willingly. One has to ask why?



This interaction sums it all up rather well to me. The lad ends up claiming he is being silenced while on national radio spectacularly failing to make a coherent point.

 

[phoenix]

Not in the UK for I suspect over 150 years . Slight difference in the complain about everything culture we have nowadays .

My two daughters aged 21 and 18 both found it funny. But apparently not as funny as the pictures of me wearing flares in the 70's.

 

[pastafarian]

Had an old girlfriend that once shoved a yorkie up her curly wurly.
It was definitely for girls.

 

[The Clamp]

Saw this on FB the other day and it is part of a huge pattern of posts where people willingly pretend that their are a large group of people offended by this stuff. As usual what is missing is the people actually offended by it.

The world has moved on and this and, like so many hundreds of others would be out of place today. That is the way the world works we progress. It is really as simple as that. We don't accept the same things as 20 years ago.

I am becoming more and more convinced that the culture wars are being fought against ghosts. We see vast swathes of people referencing 'woke' and 'snowflakes' complaining and being offended by everything but I simply do not come across those people.

It feels to me like another attempt to divide us and stifle discussion about stuff. And people jump on board so willingly. One has to ask why?



This interaction sums it all up rather well to me. The lad ends up claiming he is being silenced while on national radio spectacularly failing to make a coherent point.

I cannot abide O’Brien’s presenting style and delivery. I want to bop him on the nose when he does that pretence of not understanding.

However, he does well at exposing idiots so I can tolerate it for the end result.

 

[Hamilton]

The concept is funny. Parts of the execution are crass and sexist, and that’s where it fails.

“Stockings or tights?” Good grief!

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

The marketing definitely worked on me as a young child. I can remember buying them fairly regularly whenever I was given money to go the corner shop whilst my Dad was in the pub!

I can also remember thinking that the message was partly true. I say partly because I didn’t think the owner of the shop would be able to refuse to sell one to a girl, but I did think that girls were really not meant to have them.

It’s easy to shrug it off from an adults perspective but young kids are very impressionable, easily influenced and gullible (well, I was anyway).

As a kid, that message could easily have framed my thinking around what boys are allowed to have/do and what girls are. There was still a bit of a culture that girls shouldn’t play football around that sort of time as well as various other gender stereotypes, and that kind of marketing could easily have reinforced that view amongst young boys. It probably did with me for a while!

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The Yorkie Ad is no more offensive than women poking fun at men for being 'so ill' when they get a cold etc. i.e. not offensive at all, just a bit of fun at the expense of the opposite sex. Anyone that finds either of these things offensive needs to chill.

 

[JBizzle]

Saw this on FB the other day and it is part of a huge pattern of posts where people willingly pretend that their are a large group of people offended by this stuff. As usual what is missing is the people actually offended by it.

The world has moved on and this and, like so many hundreds of others would be out of place today. That is the way the world works we progress. It is really as simple as that. We don't accept the same things as 20 years ago.

I am becoming more and more convinced that the culture wars are being fought against ghosts. We see vast swathes of people referencing 'woke' and 'snowflakes' complaining and being offended by everything but I simply do not come across those people.

It feels to me like another attempt to divide us and stifle discussion about stuff. And people jump on board so willingly. One has to ask why?



This interaction sums it all up rather well to me. The lad ends up claiming he is being silenced while on national radio spectacularly failing to make a coherent point.

In my experience, the biggest "snowflakes" (and I absolutely hate that phrase) are those who spend their time being offended that "you can't say anything these days" etc. Almost every culture war thread is started by someone getting upset that times are changing and they aren't. It's always happened, it's just magnified by internet outrage.

Take it out of the UK for a sec, and look at the US. The dictionary definition of a "snowflake" is "an insulting way of referring to someone who is considered by some people to be too easily upset and offended".

Try asking a MAGA hat wearing, 2nd amendment touting goon to wear a mask or consider the LGBTQIA+ community as an equal and see how quickly they get offended.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

I'm boring even myself with this point again but we've got no veg in the shops, the trains don't ever seem to run, kids today won't ever be able to afford a house or retire and the thing that gets most people going is a culture war (or a Yorkie advert in this case).

Time we stopped looking the wrong way.

 

[TugWilson]

The concept is funny. Parts of the execution are crass and sexist, and that’s where it fails.

“Stockings or tights?” Good grief!

Are you kidding , this is serious stuff here , stockings are "THE" sexiest item of clothing ever worn by woman , besides it`s no different to a woman judging a bloke by his choice of boxers or briefs

 

[Bakero]

In my experience, the biggest "snowflakes" (and I absolutely hate that phrase) are those who spend their time being offended that "you can't say anything these days" etc. Almost every culture war thread is started by someone getting upset that times are changing and they aren't. It's always happened, it's just magnified by internet outrage.

Take it out of the UK for a sec, and look at the US. The dictionary definition of a "snowflake" is "an insulting way of referring to someone who is considered by some people to be too easily upset and offended".

Try asking a MAGA hat wearing, 2nd amendment touting goon to wear a mask or consider the LGBTQIA+ community as an equal and see how quickly they get offended.

This.

Has anyone ever started a thread on NSC to tell people how offended they are about something? I doubt it. The culture war fires are always stoked by the self-proclaimed anti-woke.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

It's just a bit naff now isn't it.

Not offensive. Funny at the time but now, as I said, it's just a bit rubbish.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

I googled the england women's teams attendances in 2002 when the original advert was (including asking the girl if she knew the offside rule). About 4000 people turning up to games, probably lots of free tickets to schools

The last 2 matches England played were in from of 32k (coventry) and 28k (bristol) fans I believe. Wembley sold out for recent games.

Times move on.

 

[trueblue]

The concept is funny. Parts of the execution are crass and sexist, and that’s where it fails.

“Stockings or tights?” Good grief!

But the butt of all those jokes is actually men, not women. It’s playing on how bloody shallow we can be.