I see today that a woman was given a 2 year suspended sentence for stealing and immediately transferring £31k to friends and family when £90k was refunded to her account in error by a charity shop instead of £9. Must admit I thought stealing £30k deserved a custodial sentence. Wonder if Stat Brother would have questioned the sentence had it been a pedestrian killed rather than a cyclist. Cyclists Lives Matter and all that.
I am not sure about this. Obviously it is a dreadful thing to happen, and above all, I felt so terrible for the poor cyclist and his family when reading this.. But accidents do happen and you have to wonder how culpable this driver actually was,
Firstly, he was doing 59 in a 40. That is way too high, but I see that happen daily and in modern cars with an engine size of anything over 1.6, it is very easy to do if you switch off for any time. So IMO, that alone isn't enough to demand a long custodial sentence. Secondly, it seems what caused the death of the cyclist was incredibly bad luck as the car hit a tree and rebounded across the road into him. He hasn't been run over.
I don't know, just playing devil's advocate a bit. If that cyclist had been a relative of mine, I'd probably think differently.
Is the judge suggesting prison if the man who caused this death didn't have a son?If he goes to prison what is the impact on his 15-year-old son was a question the judge asked.
What, what were you thinking?
That if someone took a life as a direct result of their illegal actions and avoided prison, I wouldn't be appalled if it was a pedestrian?
Is the judge suggesting prison if the man who caused this death didn't have a son?
Oh and in the interests of fully disclosure.
3 points, speeding, from right back in the day. (But old enough to know better)
Speed awareness course, within the last 5-10 years.
'Pay attention you tw#t' course, also within the same time frame.
I found the Awareness course to be excellent and it really changed my approach to driving.
That's the sort of thing that should be mandatory every 10-20 years
Y’all don’t have this right?There probably needs to be a cultural change rather than law changes alone.
The gun laws in the US aren't notably different from those in Canada or Belgium, but the right to bare arms has turned into an expectation and that is the problem they have that other western countries don't to the same extent.
Similarly, there ought to be a proper campaign here to turn people against speeding, far more than a few wishy washy government posters and very occasional public service adverts. Anecdotally, as ATFC says above, there are just too many people who talk of speeding as if it doesn't matter.
I’d be more interested to know how all the drivers who ignore the 50mph camera covered average speed check stretches on the motorways where there are roadworks get away with it. Do they know something the rest of us don’t?
From media articles, they caught literally 10,000’s. For example when the A23 was widened and straightened at Bolney, more recently the M23 smart motorway works at Gatwick. There was a driver on my speed awareness course caught by that.
Those ploughing through at 65mph are either thick or on false plates.
Sorry I know this offends some of you, I promise I will try and cheer some of you up soon by finding a dead pedestrian, but in the meantime:-
Dr Suzanna Bull: Lorry company to be closed after cyclist's death
Driver jailed (21 months) a form of justice appears to have been served, so I wouldn't be bringing this up, were it not for this
His trial heard he had a tray table on his dashboard and the clutter had obstructed his view.
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Oh my fudging days, what chance does any of us have?
59 in a 40 is absurd. Im probably alone in wondering why this isnt deemed like manslaughter. The mans lost control of a vehicle breaching restrictions to put in place to prevent accidents. Yes people break speed limits, but 50% over isnt likely to be done by accident, and clearly the consequences, IMO arent enough to prevent people from doing it. Yes modern cars can handle it, then trained personnel can handle a gun, but in the wrong hands then it becomes lethal and the driver clearly isnt lewis flipping hamilton.