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Is 'three' the lowest number of English players we've ever fielded in a starting XI?



niknokseagull

Give us a biscuit
Oct 8, 2003
91
London
Kuszczak Polish
Bruno Spanish
Greer Scottish
El-Abd Egyptian
Bridge English
Crofts Welsh
Noone English
Dicker Irish
Bridcutt English
Barnes Austrian
CMS Scottish

An inevitable outcome of progressing up the leagues and becoming a more attractive proposition to a wider geographic pool of footballing talent (and, ok, I know that the majority of the starting XI is 'British' and 'twas ever thus) ... but, have we ever started a competitive game with less English players in the team?

PS. And I am basing nationality on national team eligibility, hence Barnes and Austria, El Abd and Egypt, etc, etc)

PPS. Also, have we ever fielded a team with more than the eight players listed above that have, at one time, represented their country at any level?
 




Smithy

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2009
3,400
Hove
Don't know the answer to your question, but we could easily field a starting eleven with no English players.

Kuszczak Polish
Bruno Spanish
Greer Scottish
El-Abd Egyptian
Calderon Spanish
Crofts Welsh
LuaLua Congo DR
Dicker Irish
Vicente Spanish
Barnes Austrian
CMS Scottish
 


TSB

Captain Hindsight
Jul 7, 2003
17,666
Lansdowne Place, Hove
Surely Nooney is 'Scouse', rather than English? Can't seriously be part of BNP England with that accent.
 


Dec 19, 2011
268
Hove
Surely Nooney is 'Scouse', rather than English? Can't seriously be part of BNP England with that accent.

Bridcutt is eligible to play for Scotland (I think) so one less Englishman in the ranks if you go by national team, if not El-Abd was born to an English mother and is Brighton born and bred!
 








goldstone

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
7,139
This is of course just a personal opinion, but in many ways I preferred watching the Seagulls when we had a mainly British team with the odd Russian to add interest. I related much more to fellow Brits than to all these exotic multi-nationals we now have plying their trade in the blue and white stripes.
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
I think it's a bit disingenuous to refer to El-Abd, Crofts, CMS and Barnes as 'non-English', just because of their eligibility.

All four were born and raised in England (Brighton, Chatham, Watford, Somerset respectively) to, in the latter three's cases, two English parents. In fact, El-Abd is still eligible to play for England, for now.
 




ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,319
(North) Portslade
Welsh, Scottish and Irish players have always plied their trade in the English leagues though. So even though they are quite rightly classed as foreign players, it's not exactly a new phenomenon.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,295
Goldstone
I think it's a bit disingenuous to refer to El-Abd, Crofts, CMS and Barnes as 'non-English'
Exactly. If it were down to eligibility (which it shouldn't be) they were all eligible to play for England.
 






severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,549
By the seaside in West Somerset
Sorry, but having been born in England, no matter what other qualification they may have, Barnes, CMS, elAbd and Crofts are all ENGLISH :thumbsup:
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,295
Goldstone
If it were down to eligibility (which it shouldn't be)
I have no idea what this means.
The OP is saying we had only 3 English players in our starting 11. I am saying that whether or not you are English is not down to FIFA's ruling on which country you are now eligible for.
 






Pole in Goal

New member
Aug 14, 2012
174
BN1
Along with Crofts, Barnes and El-Abd, CMS is also English. He was born in Watford, to two English parents, but his Grand-mother is Scottish
 




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