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The Andy Naylor Fan Club

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Aug 31, 2012
5,147
Right Here, Right Now
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Ah, Happy days.
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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NSC Patron
Jul 24, 2007
10,274
Arundel
Proportional Representation. Get more independents that aren't towing a particular party line and really fighting for local issues whilst considering the needs of the nation as a whole.
 


Bladders

Twats everywhere
Jun 22, 2012
13,672
The Troubadour
Is the Monster raving looney party still going?


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Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,452
What about a central ground party that actually sticks to the centre, doesn't co-habit to be part of a coalition and lose all its principles. Isn't afraid to go back on a boshed policy. Actually listens to the voters of the country. Plans a manifesto based on what the public believe, obviously can't make all the people happy all the time, but something based on fairness at least. One that is straight talking, doesn't consider themselves before their electorate. Has open views to good initiatives. Basically everything we don't have now.
Haha keep dreaming pal

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beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,414
Red Tory or Blue Labour ???

both. there was commentary some weeks ago that postulated something like this, on the fairly sound basis that a lot of Conservative and Labour MP don't really fit in their party and are there because its nearest fit. some Liberals don't really fit there either, hence Clegg was able to work an arrangement with Cameron as they felt they enough common ground to work with. the conclusion was we probably should have 5-6 parties but who would make the first move to start the new parties?
 


Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,237
Brighton
If the Liberal Democrats decided against cosying up to the Tories they would be a HUGE force right now. Massive.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,414
Proportional Representation. Get more independents that aren't towing a particular party line and really fighting for local issues whilst considering the needs of the nation as a whole.

did you see how that worked out for UKIP in Wales? popular, honest politican Neil Hamilton and local lad Mark Reckless made it into the Assembly, from the party list which reinforces the power of the party. I'm all for independents in parliament, but PR is 180deg the wrong way to achieve that.
 


Bladders

Twats everywhere
Jun 22, 2012
13,672
The Troubadour
The Bald Brummies against the Big Footed Conspiracy Party? ???
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
60,115
The Fatherland
......for a brand new political party to storm into Westminster in the next election?

And if so what would it be? What would you vote for to get away from Tory and Labour?

The Tories are divided and in a total mess, Corbyn is looking to take Labour so far Left that they're almost off the political radar!

Something in the middle maybe, or something totally new?

Lib Dems, Green, UKIP? Making up the numbers or credible governments?

It would seem the Tory/Labour thing is soooooo last century now.

Do we need something new for the future?

Brexit aside, regardless of the outcome of that, what do we need from a truly electable political party for the 21st century?

Or just more of the same? ???

Fptp makes it difficult, impossible. Sack this and get proper PR then you will.
 












brightn'ove

cringe
Apr 12, 2011
9,137
London
The British peoples party. A movement of ordinary men and women who have at least worked in the private sector, no union affiliation and has never liked a Facebook post from Russell Brand.

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So a group of people that you like? Doesn't seem like a people's party to me.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,320
Surrey
Coincidentally, my wife and I were talking about exactly this and concluded with a party along the lines of "social justice".

I'm tired of hearing how the police are "sorry" for Hillsborough, but no-one is punished for it
I'm tired of hearing how a female judge gets barely a slap on the wrist for writing "chin up sexy" to a piece of scum she's just sent down for raping a 13 year old girl.
I'm tired of hearing how a 14 month old girl is murdered after being brutally raped, and the 3 policemen responsible for ignoring the ambulance man's evidence that her back passage felt slimy :sick: are now on the golf course or in other jobs
I'm tired of the train companies doing what they want, with lick-spittles in government rather than admitting their privisation mistake, choosing to blame it on militant unions, amending contracts secretly and lying to the public instead of doing what is right and stripping them of their franchises or taking them back into state ownership.
I'm tired of "Sir" Phillip Green and that other joker he sold BHS to, taking hundred of millions from the firm instead of investing, collectively treating 11,000 job losses and a 500m pension shortfall as collateral damage - and getting away with it.

The level of social justice in this country is totally unacceptable. Massive cover ups all over the place where the public are expected to be appeased by a report from Lord Poncemby-Smythe when so many of these nasty pieces of work should be slung in jail.
 


Tim Over Whelmed

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 24, 2007
10,274
Arundel
did you see how that worked out for UKIP in Wales? popular, honest politican Neil Hamilton and local lad Mark Reckless made it into the Assembly, from the party list which reinforces the power of the party. I'm all for independents in parliament, but PR is 180deg the wrong way to achieve that.

Isn't the problem we have with minorities that they don't feel they have avoice or get heard. PR does that, at least it's representation, however extreme?
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,320
Surrey
did you see how that worked out for UKIP in Wales? popular, honest politican Neil Hamilton and local lad Mark Reckless made it into the Assembly, from the party list which reinforces the power of the party. I'm all for independents in parliament, but PR is 180deg the wrong way to achieve that.

I'm not convinced by this. On the one hand, you might be right because we have 2 or 3 very big and established parties - the problem is that these large organisations get to pick and choose the policies and personnel that are not in line with the electorate's thinking. But if they fragmented down pro/anti EU lines, and then again further down pro/anti devolution lines, I think you'd see far more accountability.

The issue we have at the moment is that we are ruled by people elected into power with only around 38% of the vote. Furthermore, the upper chamber isn't democratic at all. How can this be right?
 






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