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brightonbluenose

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The reply to your probing about the cardboard hand written 'No Surrender' on the front of the stage at Glastonbury is far away from what you were inferring, brightonbluenose. Bruce collected requests for songs from fans as he raced along the front of the stage. From those, 'No Surrender' was the one the band chose for him to sing.

I was at the gig but thanks for the 'clarification' - however, I was CLEARLY jesting ya miserable git!!
 










Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
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Dublin, Ireland
no they didnt.

It takes a serious set of blinkers to think that they didn't, have you robbed an equestrian store lately?

The king of "No Surrender" entered a shared power government, one which has certain (admittedly minor) legislative areas shared with Dublin. For someone who intended never to give an inch, many miles were passed over.

To add to that, NI is slowly realigning itself to make itself closer to the country its joined on to rather than the country its in yet physically divided from. Governmental practices being changed to line up with the Republic (all MOT centres are owned by the Government, for instance), roads and infrastructure policy developed hand in hand with the Republic's National Roads Authority, trains for which Irish Rail have maintenance facilities being bought (and getting said maintenance in Irish Rail's works)... and the DUP begging to be allowed use the Republic's corporation tax system.

Ah well, you can convince yourself its still 1965 if you want. Reality and you have parted ways.
 




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It takes a serious set of blinkers to think that they didn't, have you robbed an equestrian store lately?

The king of "No Surrender" entered a shared power government, one which has certain (admittedly minor) legislative areas shared with Dublin. For someone who intended never to give an inch, many miles were passed over.

To add to that, NI is slowly realigning itself to make itself closer to the country its joined on to rather than the country its in yet physically divided from. Governmental practices being changed to line up with the Republic (all MOT centres are owned by the Government, for instance), roads and infrastructure policy developed hand in hand with the Republic's National Roads Authority, trains for which Irish Rail have maintenance facilities being bought (and getting said maintenance in Irish Rail's works)... and the DUP begging to be allowed use the Republic's corporation tax system.

Ah well, you can convince yourself its still 1965 if you want. Reality and you have parted ways.
is it or is it not still part of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland ? if anyone caved in it was the terrorists who realised they would never militarily defeat the british army, ah well you convince yourself you got all you were fighting for if it makes you happy.
 


Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
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Dublin, Ireland
is it or is it not still part of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland ? if anyone caved in it was the terrorists who realised they would never militarily defeat the british army, ah well you convince yourself you got all you were fighting for if it makes you happy.


What I/We were fighting for? No. You can keep the money burning shithole, thanks; and while your at it you might want to stop taking our money for roads/waterways/tourism promotion if possible. Just making a point that it takes a special sort of fantasist to think that the Unionist political leaders didn't sell hardcore Unionists down the river. Allister appears to have realised that, but not the rest of the DUP.
 


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What I/We were fighting for? No. You can keep the money burning shithole, thanks; and while your at it you might want to stop taking our money for roads/waterways/tourism promotion if possible. Just making a point that it takes a special sort of fantasist to think that the Unionist political leaders didn't sell hardcore Unionists down the river. Allister appears to have realised that, but not the rest of the DUP.
stop taking your money ? You've got some f***ing sauce pal, ireland has had billions out of the EU, and as net contributors that makes it our f***ing money, something you and a lot of your countrymen conveniently overlook.you could say that hardcore nationalists got sold down the river too, something the so called real and continuity ira might have something to say about, but the truth is, nobody got sold down the river, compromises were made to stop the endless cycle of bloodshed, end of story.
 
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Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
stop taking your money ? You've got some f***ing sauce pal, ireland has had billions out of the EU, and as net contributors that makes it our f***ing money, something you and a lot of your countrymen conveniently overlook.you could say that hardcore nationalists got sold down the river too, something the so called real and continuity ira might have something to say about, but the truth is, nobody got sold down the river, compromises were made to stop the endless cycle of bloodshed, end of story.

The UK's idea of contributors and recipients excludes CAP - right down to having got the rebate on that issue - and under that definition Ireland have been net contributors for over a decade. Due to the rebate there is very little of your money funding anything in the EU as it is. Exlcuding CAP Ireland contributed about 1.9Bn to the EU in 2007.

I'm also not denying that the hardcore nationalists got sold out, never have said anything of the sort. Just pointing out that its pointless using "no surrender" when the surrender has happened. No clearly no longer means No to Paisley, et al.

Reason and logic don't work on you, however.
 
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