Is Peter Taylor finally getting found out?

[Uncle Spielberg]

He only got us promoted after Mickey did the hard work for him.

Yeah thats right

34 games
19 Wins
11 draws
4 defeats

ALL DOWN TO ADAMS

What a crock of shit

 

[London Calling]

Yeah thats right

34 games
19 Wins
11 draws
4 defeats

ALL DOWN TO ADAMS

What a crock of shit

wasn't that Brighton's best ever run!

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

He had to best record of any Albion manager of all time. Whether you like to admit he was excellent for us is your prorogative but clearly there is a lot of shite psoed on here.

Championship for us - 1 season
2 promotions in 4 seasons and 1 solid season in championship - Hull ( who are now bottom without him )
Promotion with Southend and Gillingham
Mid table season in Premiership with Leicester

Yep clearly he is shite

 

[Simster]

Plus - unlike Adams and Coppell - Peter Taylor HONOURED his contract and did not simply walk out. He even told the club at the start of the summer that he was leaving - giving us 3 clear months to find a replacement. In my book, that makes him a man of integrity...

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I think this " Taylor is shite and did nothing for us " absolute bollocks that is posted on NSC winds me up more than ANYTHING posted on NSC. And the next person who says " he just inherited Micky's team and the championship winning season was down to Adams " is going to have a marrow inserted in their rectum.

I think Portsmouths good season is down to Graham Rix
I think Mourinho's 2 winning seasons is down to Ruud Gullit

WHAT A LOAD OF FECKING SHITE YOU LOT TALK

 

[Da Man Clay]

" he just inherited Micky's team and the championship winning season was down to Adams "

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I think this " Taylor is shite and did nothing for us " absolute bollocks that is posted on NSC winds me up more than ANYTHING posted on NSC. And the next person who says " he just inherited Micky's team and the championship winning season was down to Adams " is going to have a marrow inserted in their rectum.

I think Portsmouths good season is down to Graham Rix
I think Mourinho's 2 winning seasons is down to Ruud Gullit

WHAT A LOAD OF FECKING SHITE YOU LOT TALK

I still stand by my feelings that he is an average manager and good coach.

Getting Brighton up into the Championship is fairly flattering on him. We had some quality lower league players and one Bobby Zamora. Any team with Zamora would have been there or thereabouts. He scored over 30 goals in that campaign and had something like 15 assists!

Getting Hull City into the Championship was also relatively easy – They had a large amount of money in comparison to many clubs in both of the leagues, plus top class facilities – better than the likes of Pompey etc. Which makes it far easier to attract a certain calibre of player – Am I right in thinking they got their stadium for free!?

He spent over £16m at Leicester and was partly responsible for their financial demise - £3m for Matt Jones, anyone?


I am not disputing that he is a good coach/average manager, but his record at Brighton and Hull were somewhat flattering on his part…

 

[Icy Gull]

I still stand by my feelings that he is an average manager and good coach.

Getting Brighton up into the Championship is fairly flattering on him. We had some quality lower league players and one Bobby Zamora. Any team with Zamora would have been there or thereabouts. He scored over 30 goals in that campaign and had something like 15 assists!

Our defence was watertight under Taylor what has that got to do with BZ, yes he scored the goals, don't recall him saving many although his goals definitely made the difference to getting promoted. Taylor played to the teams strengths, defend in depth, hit'em on the break. Drab? possibly, boring? no, way too much nail biting against teams battering us for 80 mins. Taylor, imo, takes FULL credit as a manager who had as good a season as anyone in the last 30 years, that makes him a GOOD manager no

For us anyway

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Our defence was watertight under Taylor what has that got to do with BZ, yes he scored the goals, don't recall him saving many although his goals definitely made the difference to getting promoted. Taylor played to the teams strengths; defend in depth, hit'em on the break. Drab? Possibly, boring? No, way too much nail biting against teams battering us for 80 mins. Taylor, imo, takes FULL credit as a manager who had as good a season as anyone in the last 30 years that makes him a GOOD manager no

For us anyway

Of course we were not a one man team, but BZ was a one off and I feel that a fair as amount of managers could have got us promoted or thereabouts with Bobby firing them in. He was special and could make something from nothing.

I am not trying to take anything away from him, BUT, I feel that without Bobby we would not have been in the division, let alone promoted as champions. The conclusive evidence so far…is that Taylor has a poor record above League One. I think he IS a good coach, but an average manager. I still stand by my comment that his success at Hull and Brighton are flattering on him.

 

[Simster]

I still stand by my comment that his success at Hull and Brighton are flattering on him.

What about promotions with Gillingham and Southend. Do they flatter him too?

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Zamora scoring 31 was down to Adams coaching from Leicester didn't you know. Nothing at all to do with Taylors team selections and tactics. Nothing whatsoever.

Adams - won div 4 , fecked off to Leicester after 12 games fed up with being at a small club
Taylor - won div 3 , said to chairman " we need investment to compete in div 2, chairman said feck off, Taylor left, DK took piss out of Taylor at end of season dinner
Coppell - relegated from div 2, proving Taylor right, fannied around in Thailand for 6 weeks before deciding whether to sign again, fecked off after 14 games , fed up being at a small club

 

[Icy Gull]

I am not trying to take anything away from him, BUT.

Could have fooled me

 

[Scotty Mac]

I know this souds harsh but he coudnt really fail at Hull could he?

judging by that, phil parkinson has the same resources and shouldnt be failing - but where are they in the table?

taylor was a decent enough manager - over rated maybe, but he still has a done a decent job everywhere he has been. just a shame he is failing at palace really

 

[Silent Bob]

I still stand by my feelings that he is an average manager and good coach.

Getting Brighton up into the Championship is fairly flattering on him. We had some quality lower league players and one Bobby Zamora. Any team with Zamora would have been there or thereabouts. He scored over 30 goals in that campaign and had something like 15 assists!

Getting Hull City into the Championship was also relatively easy – They had a large amount of money in comparison to many clubs in both of the leagues, plus top class facilities – better than the likes of Pompey etc. Which makes it far easier to attract a certain calibre of player – Am I right in thinking they got their stadium for free!?

He spent over £16m at Leicester and was partly responsible for their financial demise - £3m for Matt Jones, anyone?


I am not disputing that he is a good coach/average manager, but his record at Brighton and Hull were somewhat flattering on his part…

A bad manager can easily mess up a good squad. Taylor did not need to change much and I think it is fair to say that played to his strengths, he's had some bad moments but you don't do as well as he has at as many clubs as he has just through circumstance.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

34 league games, 4 defeats - ie Taylor was a very good manager for us.

Thread Closed

 

[Rusco]

A bad manager can easily mess up a good squad

As McGhee proved over and over again

 

[Icy Gull]

As McGhee proved over and over again

very very harsh, I doubt there are many lower league clubs that could manage to slag off two promotion winning managers in one thread

 

[Basil Fawlty]

I don't think he will ever be a top-class manager, he is always going to be the average manager.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

What about promotions with Gillingham and Southend. Do they flatter him too?

I will let him off those two examples

I just don't think he we ever be a very good manager. He has failed on the big stage, thus far, and I just can't see him ever anything more than a fairly decent manager/good coach.

The real test to date was Leicester - Money to spend and a decent set up inherited from O'Neill.

NB I am not bitter about his departure or his liaison with Palarse.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

He ended up mid table in the premiership with Leicester in his only full season in charge and was top at one stage