IRA scum surrender.

[Pavilionaire]

A couple of thoughts:

1. IRA terrorism used to shock - until 9/11. Now the scale of their terrorist operations looks small by comparison. A continuation of their terrorist activities would therefore not have the impact it once did.

2. The are other, more hardline republican organisations outside of the mainstream that may "pick up the baton" for terror - INLA, the Real IRA.

3. Maybe it will be easier to continue with their organised crime activities if they were actively governing their country?

 

[Tom Bombadil]

This is fantastic news. I really admire how the British and Irish governents are managing to keep the peace process going despite the mistrust and intransigence on all sides. I'm trying to imagine how you keep your patience with the likes of Adams and Paisley, it must be a nightmare.

 

[Simster]

Because the Protestant paramillitries never shot anyone on front of their kids? Do you have to practice being such a fuckwit?

I think he probably does. At the height of the troubles, the two proddy paramilitaries were killing twice as many innocent catholics as the IRA were killing innocent protestants. In addition, there were all sorts of accusations of collusion between the proddy paramilitaries and both the police and the army.
Meanwhile, I only hope the Northern Irish people decide not to appoach this IRA statement with the triumphalist bluster that Watford Fuckwitt O has done on this thread.
Mind you, they probably will. What other moronic electorate would vote for polar opposite parties and ignores the moderates at a time after the moderates have been largely responsible for putting together a peace framework?

As Uncle Buck has stated, at least it fucks up a hundred Engerlund songs.

 

[Simster]

I'm trying to imagine how you keep your patience with the likes of Adams and Paisley, it must be a nightmare.

Everyone would agree with you, except the muppet Northern Irish electorate.

 

[WATFORD O]

Because the Protestant paramillitries never shot anyone on front of their kids? Do you have to practice being such a fuckwit?

Did I say that they didnt? What is your point here?

 

[WATFORD O]

I think you need to do some history and not tarnish the whole of the IRA with the same brush the RIRA was mostly responsbile for the bombings etc. my grandfather from corkl was a member of the ira but wouldnt have agreed with the terrorism.

Excuse me but I have a degree in history and my subject was Ireland. I know my shit.

 

[Simster]

Did I say that they didnt? What is your point here?

His point is that you won't be on here with the same "surrender" nonsense when the UVF/LVF give up arms - if they ever do.

You seem to hate Celtic because of the IRA but not Rangers despite proven links to paramilitaries. Think Andy Goram, Murray etc.

You're a blinkered idiot.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Excuse me but I have a degree in history and my subject was Ireland. I know my shit.

So why do you insist on reducing a complex issue to a series of Richard Littlejohn columns?

 

[Pavilionaire]

Nothing like an adult debate. And we accuse the politicians of bickering...

 

[WATFORD O]

His point is that you won't be on here with the same "surrender" nonsense when the UVF/LVF give up arms - if they ever do.

How do you know I wont?

 

[WATFORD O]

So why do you insist on reducing a complex issue to a series of Richard Littlejohn columns?

So you lot can keep up.......

 

[WATFORD zero]

After more than 1800 murders, 30 years of violence all with the aim of achieving a united Ireland the IRA have finally ended 'operations'. They failed. There is no United Ireland. What a waste of life.

The moment i read that i thought there is a well thought out statement by an educated man - history degree perhaps ?

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Nothing like an adult debate. And we accuse the politicians of bickering...

How do you have an adult debate with Watford O?

Anyway I though your points were good, particulalry the impact of Islamic terrorism. I wonder how that changes the playing field for groups like the IRA or ETA.
On the organised crime thing I read an analysis a couple of months ago that the leaders of the IRA were concerned about the effects on business of the recent trouble SinnFein/IRA had found themselves in. Apparently murdering catholics in pub arguments and robbing banks doesn't help the cigarette smuggling business and puts off american plastic paddies from attending fundraisers in Boston and New York.

 

[rool]

Right, I'm not big or clever and generally keep out of these things but the way I see it is that Sinn Fein has been becoming a real political force over here. However The IRA have cocked up the last year or so, with the Northern Bank robbery, the mcartney? murder and some other drugs bust which was connected to a few IRA people, and this has caused major embarrassment and a halt in the momentum that the party was getting in some areas. The IRA was becoming more and more irrelevant and generally, my impression anyway, is that they do not have the support from the majority or ordinary Irish citizens.

So, this announcement was expected to happen sooner or later. it's up to the nationalists to try and accept it and allow them to disarm without getting too much egg on their faces in order for everyone to move on.

 

[looney]

Mowlam was incompetent thats why she was ditched.

 

[looney]

And thats all I'm sayin on the topic. we got the islamic nutters to deal with now.

 

[Eggmundo]

I think if Watford O hadn't started this thread, there wouldn't have been such an influx of IRA sympathisers (which I beleive was the particular terrorist organisation this thread was centred on.).
I haven't got a History Degree, I have read up on the troubles and I am an Englishman who watched the bombings on TV etc.
Personally I consider this a victory, symbolic, but a victory none the less. I hope they burn in hell for an eternity.

 

[looney]

Who cares its f***ing over and thats the main thing.

 

[e77]

Can everyone stop singing the 'no surrender' song now ?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Easy to judge and "whilst not condoning terrorist atrocities" how many of us would have been paid up 'RA members had we been disillusioned Catholics in growing up in Ireland?