I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing at this

[redneb]

Maybe you do but f*** off back to the west country you inbread c*nt

Now let me guess, you're one of those chaps that spends ages thinking about what to write before posting. Because you've clearly studied a map when deciding what you would call the west country. You also seem to have checked your spelling before clicking that post button. I would wager that you check your mums dog hasn't got rabies before you f*** it up the arse.

 

[Leosayer]

Can catch rabies from that I thought you just need to avoid snogging it

 

[LamieRobertson]

Now let me guess, you're one of those chaps that spends ages thinking about what to write before posting. Because you've clearly studied a map when deciding what you would call the west country. You also seem to have checked your spelling before clicking that post button. I would wager that you check your mums dog hasn't got rabies before you f*** it up the arse.

What?? can you and the poster you replied to leave it out please...there is no need for such language...mod this needs sorting out

 

[redneb]

What?? can you and the poster you replied to leave it out please...there is no need for such language...mod this needs sorting out

Apologies. But he started it.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Maybe you do but f*** off back to the west country you inbread c*nt

You stupid twat

 

[BadFish]

You are not allowed to laugh at someone if they are wearing a poppy or talking about soldier that died during the war(s) let alone both!!!!!

Find some other rover privileged crust old dame flicking the V's to laugh at will you.

Political correctness gone mad I tell you.

 

[Direct Dave]

Just to stick my 2 pence worth in, but some of you seem to be mixing up the two meanings of the 'V sign' hand gesture.
Prior the second world war, the V sign was used as an offensive gesture often to a fighting opposition, this is believed to originated from the Battle of Agincourt when the French announced that when they won the battle, they would celebrate by cutting off the two arrow positioning fingers of the English longbow men. However the French were unvictorious in the battle, this resulted in the English adopting a winning salute, a two fingered gesture to the French, showing they still had their arrow fingers and they'd won the battle. The two fingered, palm in gesture was carried on from this point for hundreds of years, adopting a meaning with it of 'up yours' (offensive to an opposition) along the way.
During the Second world War, a Belgian BBC broadcaster set out a plan for a 'V for Victory campaign' recommending that people of northern France and Belgium should show a V sign (meaning we will be Victorious) to the occupier in their country. This was could have been paint on a wall for instance or shown a two fingered palm out hand gesture.
The BBC spread this campaign across occupied Europe and Britain and was eventually given it's approval by Sir Winston Churchill in the summer of 1941.
However, Churchill added to the original Victory palm out gesture by turning his hand around slightly to add the original offensive 'up yours' to the Victory sign. Although he would still mainly use the palm out gesture just meaning 'V for Victory'
So there you have it,
1. the PALM OUT, two fingered gesture meaning 'V for Victory' a WWII campaign carried out against the occupier, started within the BBC.
2. the offensive PALM IN, two finger hand gesture, hundreds of years old. (and used by Churchill during WWII, adding slight offence to the occupier during the Victory Campaign)

You can take the two fingered V sign as you like, but for me and no doubt Baroness Trumpington, an offensive action will get an offensive reaction, which will normally be 'up yours'

 

[Dave the OAP]

According to a popular legend, the two-fingered salute or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War. According to the story, the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English and Welsh longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt. But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. Historian Juliet Barker quotes Jean Le Fevre (who fought on the English side at Agincourt) as saying that Henry V included a reference to the French cutting off longbowmen's fingers in his pre-battle speech. If this is correct it confirms that the story was around at the time of Agincourt, although it does not necessarily mean that the French practised it, just that Henry found it useful for propaganda, and it does not show that the two-fingered salute is derived from the hypothetical behaviour of English archers at that battle.

******

On January 14, 1941, Victor de Laveleye, former Belgian Minister of Justice and director of the Belgian French-speaking broadcasts on the BBC (1940–1944), suggested in a broadcast that Belgians use a V for victoire (French: “victory”) and vrijheid (Dutch: "freedom") as a rallying emblem during World War II.

By July 1941, the emblematic use of the letter V had spread through occupied Europe, and on July 19, Winston Churchill put the British government’s stamp of approval on the V for Victory campaign in a speech, from which point he started using the V hand sign. Early on he used palm in (sometimes with a cigar between the fingers). Later in the war he used palm out. It is claimed that the aristocratic Churchill made the change after it was explained to him what it signified to the other classes in Britain.

According to qi, Stephen fry had that as a common misconception. Ie the agincourt thing

 

[Direct Dave]

According to qi, Stephen fry had that as a common misconception. Ie the agincourt thing

Stephen Fry

 

[Garage_Doors]

What a prick you are. Anyone can see I live in Brighton.

Supporting Southampton ? who's the prick

 

[Easy 10]

Just to stick my 2 pence worth in, but some of you seem to be mixing up the two meanings of the 'V sign' hand gesture.
Prior the second world war, the V sign was used as an offensive gesture often to a fighting opposition, this is believed to originated from the Battle of Agincourt when the French announced that when they won the battle, they would celebrate by cutting off the two arrow positioning fingers of the English longbow men. However the French were unvictorious in the battle, this resulted in the English adopting a winning salute, a two fingered gesture to the French, showing they still had their arrow fingers and they'd won the battle. The two fingered, palm in gesture was carried on from this point for hundreds of years, adopting a meaning with it of 'up yours' (offensive to an opposition) along the way.
During the Second world War, a Belgian BBC broadcaster set out a plan for a 'V for Victory campaign' recommending that people of northern France and Belgium should show a V sign (meaning we will be Victorious) to the occupier in their country. This was could have been paint on a wall for instance or shown a two fingered palm out hand gesture.
The BBC spread this campaign across occupied Europe and Britain and was eventually given it's approval by Sir Winston Churchill in the summer of 1941.
However, Churchill added to the original Victory palm out gesture by turning his hand around slightly to add the original offensive 'up yours' to the Victory sign. Although he would still mainly use the palm out gesture just meaning 'V for Victory'
So there you have it,
1. the PALM OUT, two fingered gesture meaning 'V for Victory' a WWII campaign carried out against the occupier, started within the BBC.
2. the offensive PALM IN, two finger hand gesture, hundreds of years old. (and used by Churchill during WWII, adding slight offence to the occupier during the Victory Campaign)

You can take the two fingered V sign as you like, but for me and no doubt Baroness Trumpington, an offensive action will get an offensive reaction, which will normally be 'up yours'

2 pence worth ?
I'd say that was more like £12.50.

 

[redneb]

Supporting Southampton ? who's the prick

Er you.

 

[Seagull kimchi]

Er you.

Er... you lost - haha - not gonna get the chance to say that much this season - so let me get away with it this time please?!?

(However I'd still bet my pants that you boys will be hitting the Prem next term) wanker!

 

[sydney]

fucksake..!

 

[redneb]

Er... you lost - haha - not gonna get the chance to say that much this season - so let me get away with it this time please?!?

(However I'd still bet my pants that you boys will be hitting the Prem next term) wanker!

Fair enough. wanker?

 

[Seagull kimchi]

Fair enough. wanker?

That was me being nice! - Still think we'll smash you at the Amex - while you drift like perfect ghosts into the promised land of the Prem to be humiliated by the likes of Stoke, QPR and WBA et al.

 

[redneb]

That was me being nice! - Still think we'll smash you at the Amex - while you drift like perfect ghosts into the promised land of the Prem to be humiliated by the likes of Stoke, QPR and WBA et al.

You may be right. Our away record is 3 3 3 which isnt great. TBH, I'm more worried about away to the scum on Dec 18, live on the tellybox.

 

[Durlston]

"Albert, Albert, Albert Adomah! Albert, Albert, Albert Adomah! Albert, Albert, Albert Adomah! Oh Al Adomah!" (to the tune of Macarena).

Barnet legend and mates with him on facebook. Destined for the Premier League very soon.

The start of Southampton's decline today, redneb.

 

[piersa]

Just to prove wakey tom is as clueless as we thought.

BBC News - Baroness Trumpington explains two-fingered gesture

 

[Danny-Boy]

People find lots of things in bread but it'd be pretty unusual to find one of those

Maybe a new thread "The Best of In-Bread"?