I'm not voting for anyone!

[Albumen]

This stuff about going and spoling a ballot paper is b*****s of the highest order.

People are suggesting there would be a press outcry if loads of people spoiled their papers, I don't think so. We already know the turnout and no-one raises an eyebrow at turnouts of 30% at local and European elections. Not voting/ spoling papers is just playing into the hands of the political elite.

Yep. You celebrate the right to vote by voting. If you don't agree with the top level political parties there'll be probably be a small one somewhere which has maybe the same views as you. If you don't vote for them, they won't grow. If you want to be a statistic to show your disgust for central politics, vote against them.

 

[keaton]

why not every friday at midday have lots of policies, laws, and issues presented online - then we all text-vote on them all over the weekend.........and parliament is just there to administer the workings of this?

why not? because the corps and central banks need puppets that the people believe are there to help them.

Government?

"When a parent raises a child, the parent knows they've done a good job when the child grows independent, self-educating, psychologically-balanced, and self-sufficient. Eventually, the child should no longer need the parent. Society should behave much the same way, but it's actually going backwards.

Look at the majority track record of Government: Government promotes social ignorance, lies, fraudulent economics, violence, abuse, conformity, and consumer dependence in order to retain power, instead of EMPOWERING the people. It breaks the legs of the people and merits itself a "humanitarian" by selling crutches.

So next time you hear someone talking about "who to vote for" or nitpicking over the empty rhetoric of a political puppet, just stop and pull back to see the bigger picture. Ask them the question most people don't dare truly ask: Is Government ACTUALLY good or even NECESSARY for society?"

So I imagine you voted for the YourVoice Party?

 

[spring hall convert]

Yep. You celebrate the right to vote by voting. If you don't agree with the top level political parties there'll be probably be a small one somewhere which has maybe the same views as you. If you don't vote for them, they won't grow. If you want to be a statistic to show your disgust for central politics, vote against them.

Precisely. Saying that there is nothing to vote for is a bit like that tiresome bloke that thinks all good music stopped in 1970.

You just a'int looking hard enough mate. If you want to be ignorant - fine, do that but stop making excuses for it.

 

[spring hall convert]

I would argue that voting is playing into the hands of political elite - it's playing their game, which they will win every time. Voting makes no difference, it is just submitting to our compliance with the current system. Spoiling the papers makes exactly the same difference as voting does, absolutely zilch.

Fair enough, at least you aren't arguing that spoiling a ballot paper is somehow better than not voting, it's an utterly nonsensical argument.

 

[Buzzer]

Precisely. Saying that there is nothing to vote for is a bit like that tiresome bloke that thinks all good music stopped in 1970.

You just a'int looking hard enough mate. If you want to be ignorant - fine, do that but stop making excuses for it.

Eh? Not looking hard enough? They're all there on the ballot paper. It's not like I can pop down the polling booth and find something else that catches my eye

Hanover and Elm Grove Candidates:

UK Independence Now - UKIP offshoot. Anti-EU Nutters.
British National Party - racist nutters
Christian Peoples Alliance - religious nutters
Conservative Party - nutters
English Democrats - racist nutters
Green Party - well-meaning but nutters
Harmony Party - racist nutters
Labour Party - busted flush
Lib Dems - joke party
Liberty Great Britain - racist nutters
The Peace Party - hippy nutters
The Roman Party - joke party
Socialist Party - left-wing nutters
UKIP - One-trick pony nutters
Your Voice - IT-savvy slacker nutters

You know what, I'd prefer to be called ignorant than vote for any of that lot. Ain't looking hard enough? Jeez.

 

[The Birdman]

Excellent advice.

I like it ha ha

 

[spring hall convert]

Eh? Not looking hard enough? They're all there on the ballot paper. It's not like I can pop down the polling booth and find something else that catches my eye

Hanover and Elm Grove Candidates:

UK Independence Now - UKIP offshoot. Anti-EU Nutters.
British National Party - racist nutters
Christian Peoples Alliance - religious nutters
Conservative Party - nutters
English Democrats - racist nutters
Green Party - well-meaning but nutters
Harmony Party - racist nutters
Labour Party - busted flush
Lib Dems - joke party
Liberty Great Britain - racist nutters
The Peace Party - hippy nutters
The Roman Party - joke party
Socialist Party - left-wing nutters
UKIP - One-trick pony nutters
Your Voice - IT-savvy slacker nutters

You know what, I'd prefer to be called ignorant than vote for any of that lot. Ain't looking hard enough? Jeez.

A'int looking hard enough, in the sense that you haven't done enough research. Kind of like calling them all nutters.

Even within this jokey post, you make a case for voting Green - "well meaning."

 

[Buzzer]

A'int looking hard enough, in the sense that you haven't done enough research. Kind of like calling them all nutters.

Even within this jokey post, you make a case for voting Green - "well meaning."

Not done enough research? Very presumptive. A quick scan of the fringe parties' policies and I can reject all because they are too extremist and/or racist. Sorry for not wanting to investigate further a racist party's policies on, say the NHS but that's just me. That leaves the mainstream parties and I'm already too well aware of them and dislike all of them. Yes, I know the Greens are well-meaning but having seen the mess they've made in Brighton there's no way I'll ever vote for them. So who else should I be looking out for then for my vote?

Your music analogy really doesn't work in this instance.

 

[keaton]

As someone who lives in Brighton i'm not why people keep claiming it's a mess. If anything it seems to be getting nicer

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Not having the right to moan if you don't vote is such a bollocks argument.

If you don't vote, why should you have any right to moan about what happens afterwards.

On more than one occasion in the 1980's I had conversatiosn where I was moaning about the Thatcher Government and received the reply that "Well, we voted for her." I was able to reply that I not only didn't vote for her, but voted against her. It may not have made much difference, but at least I could live with myself afterwards.

 

[spring hall convert]

Your music analogy really doesn't work in this instance.

Perhaps it doesn't in retrosepct.

Rank all the parties in order of "How accurately does this party policies and attitudes represent me?" Vote for the winner.

Or don't vote. Just don't kid yourself that spoiling a ballot paper is some grand revolutionary act like some on here are suggesting.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Eh? Not looking hard enough? They're all there on the ballot paper. It's not like I can pop down the polling booth and find something else that catches my eye

Hanover and Elm Grove Candidates:

UK Independence Now - UKIP offshoot. Anti-EU Nutters.
British National Party - racist nutters
Christian Peoples Alliance - religious nutters
Conservative Party - nutters
English Democrats - racist nutters
Green Party - well-meaning but nutters
Harmony Party - racist nutters
Labour Party - busted flush
Lib Dems - joke party
Liberty Great Britain - racist nutters
The Peace Party - hippy nutters
The Roman Party - joke party
Socialist Party - left-wing nutters
UKIP - One-trick pony nutters
Your Voice - IT-savvy slacker nutters

You know what, I'd prefer to be called ignorant than vote for any of that lot. Ain't looking hard enough? Jeez.

I take great comfort in the fact the only party you have not referred to as a "joke" or "nutters" is The Labour Party

 

[spring hall convert]

I take great comfort in the fact the only party you have not referred to as a "joke" or "nutters" is The Labour Party

Would you rather be a "well meaning nutter" or a "busted flush though?"

 

[Wrong-Direction]

I appreciate the post and I agree that a lot of the time the major parties will focus some of their policies on those who actually turn up, however many of us can see the bigger picture. Whoever we vote for, the result will always be the same, it makes no difference - so why bother at all?

Representative democracy has become merely a tool to keep the power and wealth amongst those who have it. We are no longer living in a true democracy, it is a corporatocracy, but it isn't far off from being an oligarchy. The media has been screaming "UKIP" at us for such a long time that people have actually bought into the idea, but in reality it will change absolutely nothing other than perpetuate this democratic illusion - it is all just smoke and mirrors to distract people from getting involved with genuine political change.

If young people and those on lower income started to vote en masse like you suggest, there would not be any significant change - the major parties might shift their policies slightly towards them - but the stark reality is that governments do not actually serve the people, they serve a rich and corporate elite, all disguised through lies, deception and propaganda.

Don't usually agree with you but 100% this!

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Unless you're mega rich it doesn't make a blind bit of difference what group of pen pushers you vote for! #governmentpuppets

 

[fataddick]

Saw this linked to on a mate's Facebook.

http://binnythebadger.tumblr.com/

Anyone who votes is inviting bears to crap on their carpet apparently.

Seems legit.

 

[Blue3]

Originally Posted by Wrong-Direction ..........would be the wrong decision not to vote so get out go and vote for someone anyone but vote

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Originally Posted by Wrong-Direction ..........would be the wrong decision not to vote so get out go and vote for someone anyone but vote

This argument is so lame! Just vote for the sake of voting! It makes no difference, they're all in it together and will continue suppressing us the people by telling lie after lie and giving out hope for change!

 

[Wrong-Direction]

The main thing most of us care about is the cost of living and let's face it that's going to continue increasing whatever party are in power!