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If Scotland votes yes, should Cameron resign ?

If Scotland votes for independence, should Cameron resign?

  • Yes

    Votes: 70 37.8%
  • No

    Votes: 100 54.1%
  • Who is this Cameron of whom you speak ?

    Votes: 15 8.1%

  • Total voters
    185
  • Poll closed .


Dandyman

In London village.
No, none of the jocks vote for the Tory' anyway so in a way he has been extremely clever and made sure his party will always rule the remainder of the UK , as labour would have lost their strongholds in Scotland

Of all the elections since 1945 removing votes cast in Scotland would only have changed the result in 1964 and one of the 1974 elections.
 








One Teddy Maybank

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 4, 2006
21,664
Worthing
Isn't it your lot, the ones that the Scots supposedly like, that have been doing that?

Yet another Labour failure in the making it seems.

Exactly, Scotland is hardly a Tory stronghold, the real let downs as usual are Labour.

Another epic failure by Milliband, it was probably bringing Brown out that didn't help, reminded everyone of the mess the country was in when he led it.
 


Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
18,495
Valley of Hangleton
How the hell has HE 'screwed' it up ? You seem to conveniently forget that this is democracy at work.
Save your oxygen WS, he's nothing but a deluded bench flower, inept in every argument and fail safe to be predictable, a non entity if you will in life, salivating at every twist and turn that doesn't conform:ohmy: to his weird polarisation of how life should be....
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,330
We have gone from a situation where No was miles ahead in any opinion poll to one where the two camps are neck and neck with yes making the running.

No Vote currently shitting themselves. There's now a very real possibility that they'll be left in charge of a country of chavs and spivs, both draining all they can out of the country, and a whole new set of drainees amassing at Calais. Good luck luck to all the decent people left to pay for it all.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,326
Do you seriously think that a PM that screwed up a vote that a year ago most people thought was a certain no vote has any real credibility as a leader ?

isnt a Yes win a victory for Salmond? i find it interesting that it should be such emphasis on a loss for the No, rather than a victory for the Yes. I really think the blame should lie with Salmond and his party, they have done all the work of convincing Scottish people they can have it all.
 




Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
55,799
Back in Sussex
Of all the elections since 1945 removing votes cast in Scotland would only have changed the result in 1964 and one of the 1974 elections.

That's actually bollocks isn't it?

The Guardian article you are paraphrasing there included that in the very last election the Tories would have achieved a majority and there wouldn't have been the need to form a coalition. Isn't that a different result?
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
9,821
saaf of the water
I am delighted that my politics are clear.

Do you seriously think that a PM that screwed up a vote that a year ago most people thought was a certain no vote has any real credibility as a leader ?


His mistakes were in the wording of the question, and allowing 16 and 17 year olds to vote.

The rest of the mistakes are down to Darling, Alexander, Milliband and the rest of the Better Together campaign.

A shambles from start to finish.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,330
I'm talking about the Tories, they were the biggest party in Scotland and then got wiped out in 97 with the likes of Rifkind etc losing their seats and they've never looked like getting back ever since

Sorry ENREST that's just not true, for as far back as you care to mention, assuming you are talking about number of votes.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,049
The arse end of Hangleton
That's actually bollocks isn't it?

The Guardian article you are paraphrasing there included that in the very last election the Tories would have achieved a majority and there wouldn't have been the need to form a coalition. Isn't that a different result?

Ah, the Guardian, that well known middle of the road, independent thinking paper.
 


Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Milliband must be quaking. Yes vote would make it harder for labour to achieve power,what with all their Scottish MPs in parliament. So if anyone is going to be weaker it will be milliband.

I can't see how Milliband can get or look much weaker. He's certainly done wonders to stop the Yes vote :lol:
 






Dandyman

In London village.
That's actually bollocks isn't it?

The Guardian article you are paraphrasing there included that in the very last election the Tories would have achieved a majority and there wouldn't have been the need to form a coalition. Isn't that a different result?

I stand corrected, they would have had a mighty 4 seat majority after 13 years of a different party in power.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,326
Of all the elections since 1945 removing votes cast in Scotland would only have changed the result in 1964 and one of the 1974 elections.

and the other 1974 election, and 2010 (19 maj., not 4), and given Major a strong 70 seat majority vs weak 21. with 18 elections, 27% have been materially changed by the Scottish vote.
 










wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,624
Melbourne
Shouldn't the No campaign just play a little brinkmanship? The head of the Bank of England has said that currency sharing is not really an option, which really will screw the Sweaties.

Rather than offer platitudes in the case of a No vote (more devolution, tax raising powers etc) perhaps we should be saying take it or leave it?

Pure mathematics, without political spin, says that Scotland's public finances will be worse off, those of England and Wales will be better off. Take your choice Scotland.
 


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