If a manager is going to moan about the budget (and injuries) publicly
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Icy Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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Well if it's a "ceiling" statement he's going about it in quite a classy way, don't you think?
Have to confess I am a little concerned about where the managerial/coaching situation may be heading. I REALLY REALLY want Oscar here next season.
*thinksaboutwettingthebed*
KZNSeagull
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Absolutely right.
Totally. A refreshing change from the GP moaning and a lot more professional. I hope Oscar is being backed/supported in the way he deserves.
As you know I'm not happy with the managerial/coaching situation atm, but can't see things improving unless Oscars issues are resolved. Whether people think OG's the right man to take us forward or not, player recruitment issues seem to have affected Poyet too so it's becoming a concern now.
Machiavelli
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Spot on. I'm well and truly on the OsCAR (to revive a phrase from the past) and think all of those on here thinking that some hoof merchant is a superior option are [fill in blank]
Hotchilidog
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- Jan 24, 2009
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He's merely stating the obvious. He's correct, the squad is not deep enough to cope with the level of injuries and suspensions we have had. I don't really read anything sinister into those comments at all.
seagullsovergrimsby
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Representatives from the 24 clubs met the FL on Tuesday to discuss "improvements" to the FFP regulations in light of clubs relegated from the Premier League receiving an additional £12M over 4 years in parachute payments boosting that sum to £60M. Any changes to the rules needs at least 18 clubs voting in favour. So basically we all know what is about to unfold and the cheating clubs will get away with it with a smile on their faces.
The Argus have changed the headline on the article to:
"Oscar: Injury-hit Albion squad has not been deep enough to be in top six"
I wonder why that is...
"Oscar: Injury-hit Albion squad has not been deep enough to be in top six"
I wonder why that is...
- Jul 7, 2003
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drew
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Why do you think Bournemouth will get a big fine? Are you assuming they are going up via the play-offs? Equally, both Forest and QPR can't both be fined and on the basis QPR fail to get up then neither will be fined (because let's be honest, Forest have blown it).
As much as I agree we've been EXTREMELY unlucky with injuries this season, and that Oscar has done an impressive job to get us into play-off contention, i'd disagree with any comments about our depth.
Granted the main 3 have been injured for a lot of this season (if not all of it), we've at most points of the season had 4/5 strikers for whom we are paying wages. Ulloa, CMS, Hoskins, Rodriguez and Barnes, who was replaced by Lita/Obika (as poor as they were) still meant we technically had 4 strikers, and yes I know 2 haven't played, but that's down to us being extremely unfortunate with injuries rather than a lack of depth.
In midfield, we've got 4 wingers, of whom 3 when fit/on form would walk into pretty much every Championship squad in Buckley, Lua Lua and Orlandi. They are backed up by the likes of March, Lopez, Lingaard, and Rodriguez who can play in that position. Obviously the 3 first choice wingers have again been injured for large parts, but we still have 3 or 4 VERY good Championship wingers on our books. We then have Agustein, Andrews, Crofts, Ince, Forster Caskey, and Stephens in the middle of the park.
In fact i'd say it's only the back 4 where we are a bit more limited in terms of cover, and we've been lucky in that that's where we've been least affected by injury this season.
We've got strength in depth, it's just extremely unfortunate that this season the injuries have been f*cking relentless. Although with 3 or 4 of these players we knew fitness was an issue before we signed them. Still, to be seventh all things considered is pretty good going.
Granted the main 3 have been injured for a lot of this season (if not all of it), we've at most points of the season had 4/5 strikers for whom we are paying wages. Ulloa, CMS, Hoskins, Rodriguez and Barnes, who was replaced by Lita/Obika (as poor as they were) still meant we technically had 4 strikers, and yes I know 2 haven't played, but that's down to us being extremely unfortunate with injuries rather than a lack of depth.
In midfield, we've got 4 wingers, of whom 3 when fit/on form would walk into pretty much every Championship squad in Buckley, Lua Lua and Orlandi. They are backed up by the likes of March, Lopez, Lingaard, and Rodriguez who can play in that position. Obviously the 3 first choice wingers have again been injured for large parts, but we still have 3 or 4 VERY good Championship wingers on our books. We then have Agustein, Andrews, Crofts, Ince, Forster Caskey, and Stephens in the middle of the park.
In fact i'd say it's only the back 4 where we are a bit more limited in terms of cover, and we've been lucky in that that's where we've been least affected by injury this season.
We've got strength in depth, it's just extremely unfortunate that this season the injuries have been f*cking relentless. Although with 3 or 4 of these players we knew fitness was an issue before we signed them. Still, to be seventh all things considered is pretty good going.
What did the headline say before?
KZNSeagull
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"Oscar: squad not deep enough to get in play offs", or something along those lines
KZNSeagull
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Pretty sure it wasn't that. The headline implied that Oscar thought the squad is not good for the play-offs. The article said nothing like that, hence the reason it has been changed.
yxee
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Would love to have seen LuaLua's reaction to that headline
Don Quixote
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- Nov 4, 2008
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I think we have a pretty big squad actually, but I suppose most of the players aren't good enough to sustain a play off bid. Probably because we sold Bridcutt, El Abd and Barnes.
Baldseagull
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I Notice that your strength in depth list includes two development players that never played a first team game before this season and another who has only done so a handful of times, players we have only had since January and players we lost in January, and of the 2 strikers that haven't played, CMS was expected out till Christmas and Hoskins for the whole season.
If you compare ours to the squads of others, it is pretty slim.
Granted on the young players, but we've given them professional contracts so they have to count as a part of our squad, otherwise we'd sign replacements.
You can't not count CMS and Hoskins just because they're injured, we're still paying them very good wages, so bringing in another 1/2 strikers isn't going to be affordable. They are our players, on our books, and therefore count as part of our squad. Our squad is more than deep enough to cope with a normal quota of injuries, it's just this season we've been extremely unlucky. Burnley have 3 proper strikers (2 until Barnes arrived), as do QPR, Reading, Ipswich, and so on.
Worried Man Blues
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Many managers who are doubting they will make it, come up with ready made excuses to explain their failure.